Lou Reed, the Music Snob

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when i was a kid, i loved Lou Reed and hated Springsteen

as the years passed i found that reversed - i had more in common with the characters in Springsteen's work than those in Reed's

also - for all i liked Lou reed, he treated people like commodities. he'd take credit for everything, he'd use people to rebuild his career an credibility then would erase them from his work

i especially think his treatment of Robert Quine was appalling

he had talent though - and people were always willing to give him another chance. just a big let down in the end
 

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It really had to be said about San Francisco, and if anyone’s gonna say it it might as well be Lou. At one time, the San Francisco ‘60s bands were my main musical interest. But the more music I hear, the more tedious all those SF bands get. To be fair, most of those bands did some amount of quality work that holds up, but it’s more than balanced out by trash.
 

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he's right about the grateful dead tho, those guys suck.
and timothy leary. and while i've never met dylan he seems like the kind of guy who likes getting into arguments for his own amusement..
 

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Lou Reed never shied away from some hot takes! I probably agree with more of these opinions than not, especially California bands and Zappa.
 

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Yeah saw Zappa twice in the early 70's so who am I to say...
but just what I heard!!
I never saw him with the Mothers, but I typically didn't like the Mothers on record anyway. But I saw him several times in the early-mid 80s and thought he was pretty darn good. Not everyone's cup o'tea certainly, but hardly a NO-talent. He ran a tight ship, and I wouldn't have enjoyed being in his band much.
 

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He was an opinionated guy and a notorious SOB. I like hearing his take on things, but probably wouldn't want to be his friend. I'd argue with him and he probably wouldn't like that.

I also enjoy lots of his music. I think what VU did was more revolutionary and has further reach and lasting effect than almost any other 60s band.
 

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Few more for you –

30. Wayne Coyne on Arcade Fire “I get really tired of their pompousness [sic]… We’ve played some shows with them and they really treat people like sh*t. People treat Arcade Fire like they’re the greatest thing ever and they get away with it… They have good tunes, but they’re pr*cks, so f*ck ‘em.”

29. Christina Aguilera on Lady Gaga “I’m not quite sure who this person is, to be honest. I don’t know if it is a man or a woman.”

28. David Lee Roth on Elvis Costello “Music journalists like Elvis Costello because music journalists look like Elvis Costello.”

27. Lily Allen on Cheryl Cole “Taking your clothes off, doing sexy dancing and marrying a rich footballer must be very gratifying. Your mother must be so proud. Stupid b*tch.”

26. Trent Reznor on Marilyn Manson “A malicious guy [who] will step on anybody’s face to succeed, and cross any line of decency.

25. Mark E Smith on Mumford & Sons “There was this other group warming up … and they were terrible. I said, ‘Shut them c*nts up!’ And they were still warming up, so I threw a bottle at them … I just thought they were a load of retarded Irish folk singers.”

24. Courtney Love on Dave Grohl “As for that drummer, well, he’s hit on me so many times. He’s just a very very conflicted guy about me, which is why he continually writes songs about me to hear he ‘hates’ me more than ‘anyone else.’ Kurt loathed HIM more than anyone else (except a journalist) … He’s just sub-mediocre kind of [guy] who does this ‘nice guy’ nonsense.”

23. Dave Grohl on Courtney Love “She’s an ugly f*cking b*tch.”

22. Kathleen Hanna on Courtney Love “Where’s the baby? In the closet with an IV?”

21. Paul Weller on Freddie Mercury “He said he wanted to bring ballet to the working classes. What a c*nt.”

20. Richey Edwards on The Levellers “You could go to any Levellers concert and stand in the middle and shout, ‘Jeremy!’, and 75% of the audience would turn round.”

19. Kurt Cobain on Guns N’ Roses “They’re really talentless people, and they write crap music, and they’re the most popular rock band on the earth right now. I can’t believe it.”

18. Nick Cave on Red Hot Chili Peppers “I’m forever near a stereo saying, ‘What the f*ck is this garbage?’ And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”

17. Noel Gallagher on Kaiser Chiefs “They play dress-up and sit on top of an apex of meaninglessness. They don’t mean anything to anybody apart from their f*cking ugly girlfriends.”

16. Alan McGee on Coldplay “Coldplay are the dictionary definition of corporate rock. The singer is about as weird as Phil Collins. They are career rock personified. EMI should’ve signed Otis The Aadvark instead. At least he only sucks his thumb rather than corporate c*ck.”

15. Elvis Costello on Morrissey “Morrissey writes wonderful song titles, but sadly he often forgets to write the song.”

14. Noel Gallagher on Jack White “He looks like Zorro on doughnuts.”

13. Rick James on Prince “A little short ego-ed f*cker who I had a feeling didn’t like people of his own race and wanted to be white and taller.”

12. Mark “E” Everett on The Beatles “John Lennon sings about peace because he’s a woman-beater. Hippies are so full of sh*t.”

11. Richey Edwards on Slowdive “We hate Slowdive more than we hate Hitler.”

10. Ian Brown on Bono “He’s such a fake, isn’t he? When he did Live Aid, which made them a worldwide group … he looked out and [saw] that black girl in the middle of all them people, and she’s from Hackney or something, and he was like, ‘Here’s a great shot for me around the world to show I’m Mr Africa.’ It’s like colonialist times with a big white hat.”

9. Robert Smith on Morrissey “If Morrissey says not to eat meat, then I’ll eat meat — that’s how much I hate Morrissey.”

8. Morrissey on Bob Geldof “Bob Geldof is a nauseating character. Band Aid was the most self-righteous platform ever in the history of popular music.”

7. Noel Gallagher on Liam Gallagher “He’s like a man with a fork in a world of soup.”

6. Boy George on Madonna “A vile, hideous human being with no redeeming qualities.”

5. Boy George on Elton John “All that money, and he’s still got hair like a f*cking dinner lady.”

4. Elton John on Keith Richards “It’s like a monkey with arthritis, trying to go onstage and look young.”

3. Morrissey on Brett Anderson “He’ll never forgive God for not making him Angie Bowie.”

2. Anton Newcombe on Eric Clapton “People talk about Eric Clapton. What has he ever done except throw his baby off a f*ckin’ ledge and write a song about it?”

1. Tupac on The Notorious BIG All of “Hit ‘Em Up,” really, but particularly this: “I f*cked your *****, you fat motherf*cker.
 

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It really had to be said about San Francisco, and if anyone’s gonna say it it might as well be Lou. At one time, the San Francisco ‘60s bands were my main musical interest. But the more music I hear, the more tedious all those SF bands get. To be fair, most of those bands did some amount of quality work that holds up, but it’s more than balanced out by trash.
Michael Bloomfield said the same thing about the San Francisco bands – at the time when they were most popular. I’m inclined to say the same thing about Lou Reed.
 

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Not a big Zappa fan...but can't play??? Sure Lou...
FYI, Reed begged the RnR HOF to be the one who inducted Zappa. Which is odd considering he never said anything nice about him when he was alive.

While I love a lot of Lou Reed's stuff, when he offers his critiques of others...remember he released this abomination.
 




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