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Discussion in 'Band Wagon' started by blowtorch, Oct 5, 2019.
Never heard of him (her?).
For good reason I suspect. He was much more concerned about how he looked on stage than about how he sounded.
So it isn’t cool to use a music stand, but it is cool to care what other people think? The times, they are changing.
Anyone who give me grief about using a stand doesn't get hired. Anyone who does not use the charts I provide doesn't get hired. It's that simple.
Which one of the Steel Panther guys are you?
What about the guy who does his homework, commits your charts to memory, and actually learns the songs?
Here’s something else to consider: Part of the entertainment factor, particularly with your typical cover/rock/country/blues act, is the interaction with the audience. In many cases, a music stand can occupy so much of the performer’s attention that there is no interaction at all-just eyes glued downward while standing there motionless. This is precisely the scenario that creates the stigma regarding music stands on stage. This is not as big a deal with orchestras and jazz ensembles where the music is the primary focus, but for a typical bar band it can dramatically alter the overall vibe.
I went yesterday night to a gig. Two bands. The first one, 20 years old (the band, the players double the age). The singer was reading HIS OWN SONGS!!!!!!
I couldn't believe it... come on! your own songs!! only 10 simple songs to memorize!!!
Was the most unproffesional and dorker gig this year for me.
The second band were just sublime
I went to a book reading and the author READ from his own book!
Fleetwood Mac this spring. Must say I was disappointed to see the prompters (though cleverly disguised as monitors to the mere mortals in the front of the stage). They have been performing those songs for 40+ years most of them.
Here’s what I don’t get.
The FM folk’s music has been very, very, very good to them.
Their music has provided extremely comfortable lifestyles for them.
It’s not like they are slogging it out in dancehalls and bars doing four sets a night, six nights a week.
I’ve done that, for decades.
I can remember the lyrics and chord changes to literally thousands of tunes.
I use no aids, of any kind.
I’m human, but generally, once it’s in my noggin, so far, it stays there.
If my music took great care of me, I’d take care of it.
I had to use Google to find out what a dork was.
Oh, and I always use a music stand/tablet when playing in a pit band. I'm not sure if that makes me a dork - but I guess I can live with it.
I know hundreds of songs inside and out from my cover band days, too, but FM did an awful lot of drugs in their heyday, so those prompters are probably insurance in the event of minor brain malfunctions.
Why are they exceptions? Isn’t the whole argument behind not using one that if you have practiced and prepared you shouldn’t need one? Why is playing a viola in an orchestra any different? My band plays 3 hour gigs regularly. I’m not sure how long orchestra gigs are, but if I slave away at home practicing all that material to not have to use one, why is it acceptable for them NOT to have to memorize their parts?
as stated earlier
That means nothing to me and is a horrible argument.
You go to see an orchestra for the same reason you go to see any other band. To SEE them play music live. If that wasn’t the case they would just listen to it at home.
I could argue that a lot of the time an audience at a bar is just an audience because they happened to be there drinking and the music is background music and they may not even be watching the band.
If you’re there to see an orchestra they aren’t background music. You are watching them play.
They are also between 71 (Nicks) and 76 (McVie) years old.
Maybe, just maybe their memories are not what they used to be. Let's check back with you on this subject in another 22 - 27 years.
How do you get a guitarist to stop playing?
Put sheet music in front of them
I think it may be dependent on the situation.
Back in the early 90s, we had a band in my town that had a rabid cult following. The band and us superfans were kind of a big family. The songwriter, Philip Price of Winterpills, has written a ton of songs. Every time the band learned a new one (or three) it was a big event at their next gig.
Sometimes they'd just learned the song that afternoon. Sometimes they used music stands.
They still put on a good show.
And I also feel that iPads on stands onstage are lame.
One of the bands I play with has been doing the same tunes for 10 years, and the singers still have to read the lyrics.