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Discussion in 'Band Wagon' started by blowtorch, Oct 5, 2019.
Chrissy has a gig where she will provide the third vocals in a week. 3part harmonies in almost every song. Lots of originals too. Two rehearsals then gig.
She will use an iPad while invoking the Howlin Wolf clause.
The stigma of using an iPad has lowered as everyone in the audience is carrying a smaller one and half of them are looking at it. If you use lyrics and chords on the iPad you can learn songs 5-10 times faster and so your band can do 500-1000 songs instead of 100 from the same effort.
That guy also married Courtney Love. I'm not sure I would trust his decision making.
Yeah music stands and i-pads really are a bring down.
I already have one 'Rock & Roll black mark' against me as I play and sing sitting down, and I'm fine with that, as I have good energy, and entertain pretty well-
I will have a music stand with my " Cheat Sheet" binder for requests to my left ( stage right) if needed. I try not to use it, but it's there.
I’m stamping my foot, AND pouting!
Stupid music stands!
Full disclosure, I own a nice, old Manhasset music stand.
It’s been used, by me, too.
It used to be my drum machine stand.
I haven’t used it for that purpose in close to 20 years.
I'm of several minds on this.
In the main I agree with the premise of the thread.
But when I play in a cover band I sometimes put a prompt on the floor.
And if someone just has "it" they will look cool regardless of stands.
Very few of us (myself included) have "it".
I guess I never noticed but Cobain had "it". Grandpa cardigan, music stand, dressed all in beige. Yup. Still cool. And that is one handsome dude. Like Bowie handsome. Seems to have done his best to hide it.
here's my take
live music is always better than canned music because it means something is alive
so if that means music stands and ipads, ok
but there's a cost
when I do that, it means making music is a bit more like reading from a book instead of speaking from the heart
but what I think is more important is that it surrenders too much of the idea that we musicians have musical judgment, that we believe we carry what we consider *most* lyrically and musically valuable in our heads and on our backs
we are memories, guardians, living filters
give that up, and you become more like a CNC machine with no long-term memory that executes whatever design it's been given
my own inclination is not to start down that road
if I'm up there, it's because I believe it's important for there to be this person-to-person connection and that brief but beautiful culture of communicating
in my experiences, memorization is the only thing that really liberates me to be fully in that moment
Well all I know is, if I see a good band, whether a cover band or not, nailing it, playing great, got the crowd into it, everything is rocking, I'm not gonna shrug and walk away because, oh, I saw they had a stand or two up there as helpful reminders of chord progressions, lyrics or whatever. If the music is good, who gives a crap if they use stands.
It’s really more of a presentation/audience expectation thing than anything to do with memorization.
I used to sit in at a club I'd frequent when working in Los Angeles. It was a sort of haunt for a lot of session players called Filthy McNasty's. There was a word for those so overly concerned with their appearance that it came at the expense of substance...
...though we elevated the stature of such creatures by using the French word to describe them..
Yeah, these guys are pathetic!
I play like.... , but I remember the 3 or 4 chord progression......... Any singer should be able to make up lyrics on the spot if needed.
I rarely forget them......
Please don't use a stand, clipon tuner, cowboy hat, or a capo......... Dork!!!!!!!!!!!
And,..... If you are not homeless, ....please don't dress like one, you will look like a DORK......!
Dorks, all of them
I’m more concerned with how it sounds.
However, seems to me reading something from a stand adds one more complicated task, in addition to playing and singing, that increases the likelihood of an embarrassing error.
They are improvising their parts, but they have to follow the chord progressions which can be very intricate. Jazz songs are not your typical 3 or 4 major and minor chord songs.
It doesn't bear repeating IMO.
If someone believes that they can perform better with a music stand then they should.
Taped to the top of your accordion.