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Discussion in 'Band Wagon' started by blowtorch, Oct 5, 2019.
Look at these losers!
They look like a bunch of dorks!
Hey...some guys think it's OK to wear a dress and carry a purse...who am I to judge
Let me see if I can explain this. You live your life and I will live mine. You can, well I can’t say it here, but stick it where the sun don’t shine.
In my fledgling band (new this year) of guys in our 50s I'm lead guitar and memorized everything.
Singer/rhythm guitarist and the bass player always use notes and a stand during rehearsal and are stuck on stage with them a few gigs in.
If you start with that crutch it's hard to get off it.
But my attitude is,:
- I'd ther play with these guys than not
- We're not going pro anytime soon
- Everyone has their own priority, mine is to be on point with playing and having fun and not having to follow notes. Theirs isn't so....whatever.
I don't like how music stands look either, but we get nothing but strong compliments because we're good and I hope someday they'll memorize the darn words
I was in Nashville last month. Walked the main drag to check out some bands. Many bands had iPads. I was surprised given the iPad hate that exists on the internet.
Only musicians use music stands. The rest are perfectly capable of memorizing their vast, complex repertoire using the 11 brain cells they were born with.
I'm in that "failing memory" group. I'm constantly rotating in "new songs to me" and can't always recall lyrics, plus I keep a set list with notations for key signatures and pedal settings. It's either that or screw up a performance.
I made a small music/notebook stand. It's a wooden platform 9"X15", with a bracket from a photography supply that screws onto a vintage cast-iron base mic stand.....relative unobtrusive, yet effective. I, too, never have any comments (to my face) other than, "Hey, cool music stand....where'd ya get that!"......
I tend to agree with blowtorch. Of course, classical musicians and jazz big band cats are always gonna run music stands. That is a given. Academic styles of music are just kinda like that.
Jazz combos should do their best not to run music stands. It is understood that if you are good enough to run in a combo (outside of a jam session), you shouldn't need a Real Book or an iPad. Classical combos almost always use sheet music, though.
When I've used music stands for country/rock/blues bands, its usually because I am working with less time than is reasonable. If I have to learn 40 songs in 5 days, I'm gonna use some cheat sheets so I don't sound like an uninformed dumbass in front of a bunch of people. Although, if I can, I try to hide those cheat sheets by taping them to the top of my volume pedal or something incognito like that.
If you need help remembering lyrics, I've seen a lot of people write just the reminders they need on a notecard and tape it to the top and/or backs of their acoustic guitars. I recommend writing that in fine tipped sharpie or a really dark pen. Pencils and quite a few pens will be hard to read under stage lighting. I also think you should only write out as many cues as you think you will need. That way each gig you can write out fewer and fewer cues and eventually ween yourself off of needing them. I agree that you should have your set lists printed off in large, bold print so you can read it from the floor instead of a stand.
At the end of the day, if a music stand with a bunch of papers on it can act as a musical security blanket to someone who might otherwise perform really poorly....I guess I'd rather listen to them with the music stand! =)
I struggle to memorize a couple dozen lyrics along with playing lead guitar. I have rarely used a stand, but if I gotta do it, I gotta do it. I would rather have a stand there than mumble / makeup lyrics.
This is your brain on drugs.
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Bet they have an AFM Union contact, filed with thei AFM local
I can't believe you folks.
What kind of banal mean spirited jerkwads do you have to be to make jokes about MUSIC STANDS!
How would you feel if you had to use a music stand?
Ya'll should seriously consider showing some more compassion and expanding your world view.
Our singer in the early 90's used to keep the words to a couple of songs he always had trouble finding the time to memorize in his back pocket. He would use a magnet to attach them to the mic stand before the tune while he spoke to the audience. This drove the drummer and bass player crazy. They hated how unprofessional it looked. One night they spotted the folded sheet of paper in his back pocket. The bass player nodded to the drummer, grabbed the paper turned around and handed it to the drummer who wadded it up and tossed it into the darkness. Turns out it was the tearful speech he had written for the organizer of the charity benefit we were playing. Friends of his.
In my last band the bass player always used a music stand, even on stage. I, on the other hand memorized all my lyrics. In a rockabilly band a music stand just doesn't cut it. Learn your parts or say bye bye!
I think the mean-spirited jerks who make fun of eye patches are the same ones who make fun of music stands.
I'd rather have a stand in front of me than a front in stand of me.
Is that the Brian Setzer Dorkestra?
Oh, gosh ... here it is again ... said this before ...
... play in a 10-piece, ‘70s funk-cover band ... no one is NOT paying us to come and pack our shows and dance ... have opened for George Clinton and Parliament, and played for the POTUS and in front of 20,000+ ... some of us (horns, singers) use stands ... some don’t (me, bass & drums) ... no one cares, ‘ceptin’ guitarists on this forum ...
... and they can’t dance ...
This is actually my goal. I figure I’m about half way there. Just need to work on looking cool now...