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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by mugen74, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:52 PM.

  1. mugen74

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    So I just got a TC Ditto Looper from FedEx. The most basic one. I’ve been playing with it for about an hour now. Wish I’d gotten one a long time ago. I can see this thing greatly speeding up my advancement as a player.

    Anyone else use a looper for education?

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  2. JuneauMike

    JuneauMike Friend of Leo's

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    Yep. I'm a caveman, hunt and peck guitarist who plays in church. I use a loop pedal all the time to work out my parts in a way that I can stay out of the way of other instruments. I can play a track in cowboy chords and then go find chords and passages up the neck that work without driving the other band mates crazy with my fiddling.

    I had a Boss RC-2 that just had way too many features for my liking. I've also got a Boss DD-7, it's hold feature is more than enough for me. I plan on buying a Ditto Looper sometime in the near future. I like a dedicated looper with one function and one button. Perfect for my needs.
     
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    A good sounding looper, simple or complex, is the greatest invention since sliced bread.
     
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    I've been using one in my solo live performances for almost 10 year's.

    DigiTech.

    I like it.
     
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    Ditto loopers are nice. I had one a while back and recently purchased a Boss RC-1.

    It has an option for stereo input so I’m able to record a drum loop from YouTube on one input and lay down a bassline on the other.

    I can layer with guitar chords and ultimately play along with the created backing track.

    I feel the simplicity almost forces you to play cleaner with more attention to your rhythm.

    Neat stuff!
     
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    I am a Boss RC-1 moron. I seem to get it into a mode i don't understand and can't get out of. But still it's cool and useful. Haven't tried the second channel yet. I am not proficient. I'll probably fire it up tonight after reading this.
     
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    Watch this as you can engage your pedal to seem like it’s broken.. it’s an option that I don’t have a clue what it is or how to use..
     
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    All those Zoom multi-effect pedals a bunch of us are always touting as being great values come with functional loopers built in (and really basic drum machines...)
    For practically negative money (used), they cover a lot of ground.
     
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    This is the rabbit hole i fell down. Thanks for the video.

    Edit - I looked up the manual. Mode changes order of record/overdub/playback to record/playback/overdub.
     
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    You’re welcome. I’ve read quite a few reviews of people saying their pedal just started to fail and had to be sent back. Which is not common for Boss.

    I did some research and found that video.
     
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    Here's the part of the manual covering that.
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    Yep, like my basic Ditto's a lot. Tried the Boss RC-3, there were some things I didn't like about them. Sent back . It wanted to record loop two when I stopped loop one. Seems like it was too complex to avoid that during live performance.
    Apparently no one who designs a looper really has done looping live. There are nuances you need when playing, singing etc all at once. No double taps etc. Try singing a phrase while playing a rif , fill or chord and double tapping sometime!
     
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    Essential.

    Great for improving your time, too.
     
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    I got a Ditto looper awhile ago and for me it excels at two things. One is learning songs (and especially solos). The other is forcing you to play in time. If your time isn't perfect, it is amazing how much you can drift after 30 seconds and then when the loop restarts, the tempo changes abruptly.

    They are a great learning tool!
     
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    Sounds like me. I had the RC-20. Too many knobs! I gave it away.

    I would like a very simple, reliable looper. What do the smart people recommend?
     
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    I think the OP has got it nailed, frankly. Small footprint and its pretty inexpensive too. My Boss looper cost a small fortune when I bought it new.

    If this thing confuses us, it ain't their fault.

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    I’ve had a complicated Boss one for ages. Never really got the hang of it. But I can handle the basic one switch Ditto and I use it all the time. Excellent little box.

    Now I want a really simple drum machine.
     
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    I use the looper on my Flashback Delay. It’s only around 40 seconds capacity IIRC, but that’s plenty for me.

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    I have an RC-30, a Trio +, and a basic little one switch Ditto type. The little one gets all the usage.
     
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    That kinda inspires me to look for one of these the next time I go to our only music store. Or maybe just buy one off of Amazon for $10-$15. (Really, that's all you need. A looper with a single function and something to keep time.)

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