Looking for a "boutique" 5f1...

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  1. TheDams

    TheDams Tele-Holic

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    Hi,

    I am considering a Tweed 5F1 amp for practice.

    Any recommandation for a builder ? budget would be 'round $700/800 max (is it irrealistic ?)

    Thanks for your help.
     
  2. Nevada_Bob

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    I think for that kind of dough you can probably find a used "57 Champ" or "EC Vibro Champ."

    No need for "boutique" if you can find the real thing!
     
  3. TheDams

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    Well, I've been looking since a couple of days... most the 57 Champs and Vibro Champs are closer to $900/$1000 :(
     
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    On reverb there is a 69 deluxe reverb for 900 if you can swing the extra coin...
     
  5. Jakeboy

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    Call or email a Jim at Lil Dawg. He is well within your budget.
     
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  6. TheDams

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    Thanks ;)

    But I am looking for a Tweed (Champ or Vibro Champ).
     
  7. TheDams

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    Mmmmmh, a 5F1 Champster is $779, but without speaker.
    Pretty sure I'll have to add shipping too...

    Total might be above $800 (which is my very maximum price)
     
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    You can build your own boutique 5f1 Tweed Champ from a kit for $400 - 450. It's the easiest circuit to do. If I could do it, you can do it.
     
  9. Alex W

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    I recommend fellow TDPRI member "muchxs" who will make you a superb amp.
     
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  11. TheDams

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    Yeah, I know... but I had my share of DIY and debugging.

    I'd like something built by someone with the right knowledge and who can do a real tidy job ;)
     
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    Fair enough... one was enough for me... but it does sound fantastic!
     
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    And lt looks great too. Nice job sir ;)
     
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    I just got an ec vibro champ for 699, new
     
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    Muchxs. I have one and it's better quality than anything out there. I wouldn't take an original tweed 5F1 for it.
     
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    You can build one for about $300. Maybe less. It only has 3 tubes. Very simple circuit.
     
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  18. tjnies

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    Post #11 by OP says he doesn't want to build himself.

    I would think the OP should be able to buy a used tweed Champ within his budget. I found a Swart 6v6SE for that range. Just need to be watchful and strike quickly.
     
  19. muchxs

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    Let's do the math:

    Chassis kit from eBay, $130.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/5F1-Champ-C...hash=item1e8d0f18f7:m:mt45H2AEumSo359I12VUG9w

    A Mojotone chassis costs $80 all by itself.

    $100 will buy you transformers unless you want the expensive ones. Those cost $200.

    We're at $230...

    Champ cabinet via eBay, $109. I'm going to be polite and I'm not going to point out the several features that aren't what they should be.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/rawcabs-5F1...671791?hash=item465493a0af:g:OPUAAOSwo0JWOtTB

    We're at $340. We still don't have a speaker, tubes, a handle or feet. Sooo...

    Weber alnico Sig 8S, $45 from Weber. We'll just say a handle and feet cost ten bucks. Good luck finding a handle and feet for ten bucks. We're at $400.

    Back to good ol' eBay for a tube set. Don't get me started on these imported tubes layered with fancy hype. Let's say you can get a few tubes on eBay for fifty bucks. You can pay a whole lot more from vendors who are awful proud of their NOS.


    I get $450. That's some assembly required. Like... all of it. That cabinet comes uncovered. I still have a persistent cough from wheezing sawdust and lacquer thinner.

    BTW cyanoacrylate is a nasty irritant.


    In reality shipping adds up and you'll want to upgrade a few parts.


    If you start with a Weber 5F1 kit it costs $480 plus shipping.


    If you start with a Mojotone kit it costs $505 plus shipping.
     
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    It's tough to find a good 5F1, or one that qualifies as "boutique" for $800. Save another $150 or and there are quite a few.
     
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