Lets see Who has got the Oldest DIY Champ?

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  1. Platefire

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    Of course with pictures! This is one of the most favored first guitar amp project I think in DIY history. I know it was my first. The Chassis and all the parts were furnished pre-drilled and ready assemble in kit form by a guy pretty well known in the DIY world "Casey4s" which also provided installation instructions. Casey4s also instructed me on the cab constructions also by e-mails. If fact it talked me into building an amp in the first place. This one was started in 2000 and completed in 2001. So that makes mine 17 Years old.Thank You Casey4s for getting me jump started:>)

    BTW--The brass corner plates are on there because this was my first tolex job so I messed up
    the corners. So the corner plates hide the blotched corners.
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  2. Platefire

    Platefire Friend of Leo's

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    Well so far I reckon I've got the oldest?
    No others are stepping forward!
     
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    Seems you are the Champ Platefire!!!!
    Thats a nice build first or not. Any demo clips of those hot rodded mods.
     
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    Yeah, but I was hoping to see some really old DIY Champ projects come out of the woodwork.
    It don't have to be beautiful. A champ Rat Rod is fine. I know they are out there, just getting
    them to show up. I really don't have any sound clips that I can think of on this amp.

    I will throw and newer version into the hat, a Revere Reel to Reel converted to a champ circuit with a EL84 power tube and put in a head cab--called "little Bear done 2004---14 Years old.
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    I can't beat 2001, but here's one from Circa 2003 to 2006. Not my build (this predates my getting into amp building by about 10 years) but one I bought broken on Craigslist and repaired. Supposedly built by a "Boutique" builder that was active in the early 2000s, but even so was such a small shop that the amp doesn't even have any name plates or Builder markings on it other than those I added after I brought it back to life, so I would call it a diy build.

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    I lose! The stain on the cab for mine is still wet.
     
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    Nickfl---Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's a narrow Panel remake of a 1958 to 1959 Champ.
    What all did you have to do to it to bring it around? Well building one from a kit like I did is not exactly building one from scratch either. Taking a bare chassis and planning all the hole drilling take quite a bit of planning. I can do it now but back then it was all I could handle was just putting the kit together---with a lot of mistakes that had to be corrected. Thanks for sharing!

    JD0x0, well so you lost on the age deal but it would be nice to see some pictures! It seems just yesterday when I build my first amp but now almost 20 years ago, hard to believe. Platefire
     
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    Mine doesn't qualify as DIY but I have an early Kendrick Champ probably built by Gerald himself, and for him it might have been DIY until he sold it.
    I got it just as a working chassis with the only ID being the Kendrick PT and typical gray hospital cord.
    I think it's pretty cool since back in probably the '90s there weren't a lot of Tweeds being built.
    I'd guess there really were no kits and almost no DIY then because vintage amps were just too cheap to be worth making low budget repros of, where chassis would have to be fabbed and spec parts might have been harder to source.

    Interesting topic!
     
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    Good Insite telemnemonics

    You got me doing a little research on Kendrick's amps and I'm not to sure who you are referring to by "Gerald". First person I thought of was Gerald Weber:>)----but I did find out that Kendrick was one of the first vintage fender amp re-producers in the 80's. In what examples I've seen, top notch amps!
    Maybe you could fill us in a little better and show your amp. I came into amp building/converting in about 2000 but like you say, as the price of those vintage amps started to skyrocket about that time the DIY thing really started to build also.

    I knew nothing about electronics when I got into it and was literally talked into building my
    first amp almost against my will, but I went along with it. The result was once I got started it became the greatest most enjoyable hobby ever. Platefire
     
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    I built a 5e3 in 2008. That's neither a champ, or the oldest so far. Though now the 5e3 cabinet houses a 5c2 circuit. More champ like and a much better practice amp.
     
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    Didn't @JohnnyCrash build a few amps (maybe a champ) a long time ago? I remember reading a lot of his posts regarding building and tweaking circuits. I learned quite a bit from those.
     
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    I changed the caps on a couple of amps in the early 90s, but I have yet to build an amp.
     
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    Not great pics but here’s the old Kendrick 5f1.
    I haven’t built but was modding out of Weber’s first book in 1994 IIRC.
    This one has been worked on and either had the OT changed or was built with a multi impedance OT which was not typical early Kendrick all original style builds. The wire nut covers the other OT tap, and a second output jack has been removed.

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    I built a Champ back in the mid 90's. Then modded it to a vibrochamp about a year later. It was my first attempt at building an amp, a bud box special put into a wood box which I made. I still have it and use it on occasion. Great sound! I keep looking at picking up a 1x8 extension cabinet and mounting the amp upside down on top of it - ala one of those audio tube amps.
     
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    Wow, do they make bud boxes that big?
    I guess there was no aftermarket chassis repro industry then to buy chassis' from?

    That's pretty early, you may have a winner!
     
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    Of course pictorial evidence of the whole matter must be presented!
     
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    Just hit Bud's website. They make all kind of different sizes.

    I had a ton of old tubes, sockets (ceramic), punches, etc which my dad had leftover from probably the 60's. I only had to buy transformers and a small items to build it. It's kind of a Franken-amp!

    My next amp was a Super. The cool part was back in that era you could call up Fender and talk with their engineers. They helped me to apprehend transformers for example. As a side, I'm an EE.
     
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    Do you still have that Champ? Would love to see pictures. That would pre-date
    mine by about 6 years. 28 year old DIY Champ. Platefire
     
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    Just wanted to say thanks for sharing your Kendricks 5F1 pictures. They really followed the original Fender Champ very close I see. I see the only exception is the filter cap values have been increased from the original design which is a good move to get rid of that original Champ hum. I built one almost identical to the one in the #1 post for my Son. Since then I have gone back and upgraded the filter caps in both of them to higher values to quite them down. So much better now. That's a cool looking Champ you have there! I bet it sounds great! Platefire

    Here is some gut shots of my Champ:

    Original back in 2001:
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    Now June 2018:
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    I have one of Muchxs' personal Champ clones... The one that all followed supposedly. Blonde cabinet with 6x9 and a white powder coated chassis.
     
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