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Lets build something that looks like an ES-335

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Freeman Keller, Dec 19, 2020.

  1. Freeman Keller

    Freeman Keller Poster Extraordinaire

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    I am not enough of a Gibson scholar to answer that. There are lots of ES style guitars with deep bodies - ES-5, ES-175 etc, but I don't know of any double cuts. These guitars have quite different bracing - most of them are true hollow bodies. I have built one based on the ES-5, its my personal jazz guitar.
     
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    starting to come together
     
  3. Freeman Keller

    Freeman Keller Poster Extraordinaire

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    Sometime back I had a 56 reissue goldtop cross my bench. Like most guitars that get left at my house for a few days I just had to play it. And I liked that big chunky neck so much I had to copy it

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    In fact I liked it so much I've used that profile on all the electric guitar necks that I've built since then, including my personal tele clone (heresy, I know)

    The key to carving a neck is just to remove anything that doesn't feel like a neck

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    I write the nut and 12th fret specs right on the neck so I don't forget what my goals are. The other measurement that is critical is the 19th fret, the neck to body joint. Because of the thin veneer on the inside of the horn I can't sand the body, I have to bring the neck to meet the sides.

    Getting closer

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    Amazing stuff Freeman! I'd LOVE that neck!
     
  5. Freeman Keller

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    A couple more shots of setting the neck. For the bridge I'm going to use I want the fret plane 5/8 off the top. Everything is just lightly clamped together so I can check

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    Might have been a Barney Kessel model?

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  7. Freeman Keller

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    Cut the f-holes

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    Drilled out the waste in the pickup cavities


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    and routed them out

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    The end of the tenon gets routed but still extends into the pocket

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    I’m loving this!
     
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  10. Freeman Keller

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    While the back is off is a good time to do the wiring.

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    The white areas around the f-holes and pots is surgical gauze tape reinforcement. I stick the tape on and flood it with thin CA, probably not necessary but I've done it on every guitar with f-holes. I need to put a piece around the jack, that is a notoriously weak spot.

    Double check that I can feed the harness thru the f-holes

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  12. Freeman Keller

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    Bound the f-holes

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    I have followed every build thread I ever saw you post, Always enjoy them, even if it is a repeat performance
     
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  14. Freeman Keller

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    Thanks Gardo, if this helps someone understand why 335's are so expensive then it was worth my while.

    Moving on, I glued a piece of ebony to the head stock. Gibson would have used some sort of light colored wood (holly?) and painted it black. I like to see a little bit of wood grain on heads and pick guards and stuff. No pictures of the glue up or trimming it back to the peg head shape

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    Routed the binding channel. My head shape is very slightly different from Gibsons - it doesn't have the dimple in the middle and the string paths are very slightly different. Enough so its obvious that this is not a Gibbie

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    And bound it

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    Next I routed the cavities for my initials

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    Glued 'em in

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    And scraped flush

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    There is a bit of ebony dust filler along the inlay, that will disappear under finish.
     
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    I am not a "luthier"... yeah, right! But seriously... this is great stuff... the attention to detail, and your modesty is most admirable!
     
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    Another way I am cheating on this guitar is by using a pre radiused pre slotted fretboard. I made a little jig to slot them myself but it seems like every guitar I build is a different scale and its such a hassle to slot them that I just buy what I need from LMII. I think if I ever got a cnc for my shop (which isn't going to happen) the first to things I would make it do is slot fretboards and inlay pearl.

    Carefully trim and sand the fretboard to exactly the width I want minus the binding. Check and double check, there are several items that all need to fit correctly at the heel of the neck

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    Glue and clamp the binding to the f/b. I use thin and medium CA for all of my binding, regardless of whether it is plastic or wood.

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    Scrape it level with the board

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    and check the fit

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    I love this thread!
     
  18. Freeman Keller

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    Thanks, Song. It happens that my wife and I were cross country skiing today in the north cascades and we skied a lovely trail called "Wind Singer"

    Back to the neck. Route the cavities for the fretboard inlays

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    There's one on Reverb at the moment... https://reverb.com/item/37947964-1968-gibson-es-335-custom-order-3-body-depth
     
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    Wish I could have taken the back off mine when I rewired it!

    I love all the build threads, and this one looks like it's going to be spectacular. Jealous of your skills.
     
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