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Let’s see your 50’s-era TWEEDS (and clones)!

Discussion in 'Glowing Bottle Tube Amp Forum' started by El Tele Lobo, Nov 28, 2020.

  1. El Tele Lobo

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    I want to see your 50’s-era tweed amps and clones or home builds of the same. Early period octals or later-period classics. No tweed-covered 90’s pcb stuff. I want to see (and if possible hear) the REAL DEAL! Feel free to post amp specs, history/story or details about your builder.

    I'll start. This is the one I currently own. It's a custom clone build based on a 5F1 Champ. It has a 12" ceramic speaker, a solid pine cabinet, headroom switch (offers more clean headroom...or the stock circuit) and a bright cap switch for muddy guitars and buckers and stuff. Lacquer finished tweed too. Made by the now-defunct Modern Sound Amps out of Charlotte, NC. Best amp I've ever owned...hands down. He didn't have a name for his Champ model at the time, so I named it the Li'l Punk. It can be very sweet or very least depending on how you open it up.

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  2. El Tele Lobo

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    The Punk was actually my 2nd amp from MSA. My first was one of their flagship models, the Vibrolush...a faithful clone of a 5F11 tweed Vibrolux. The only update was a 10" ceramic speaker. Sadly, after I got the Punk, the Vibrolush didn't see much mileage and when money got tight during X-ray school, it had to go. Here's some pics:

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    Saying goodbye was hard...even though it had been largely neglected for about a year or so. Here's some farewell pics at the music store:

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    Finally, here's a pic of my "Tweed Sisters" together...followed by the devastation after I broke up their happy home:

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    All Lil Dawgs. Champ, Harvard and 5b3 deluxe. My 5e3 isnt in the pic.
     
  4. 68Telebass

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    This is all I got-Fender Mini-Twin ‘57.

    1 watt of pure attitude through 2x 3” speakers. It DOES have a 1/4” headphone jack, so I can run my Egnater 12” cab with it...:cool:;)
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    Made by a friend of mine, no pcb... 5W. I made the case for... Sounds great for me.
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  6. rjtwangs

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    My Clark Webster/Harvard
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    The nos tubes for my Champ...
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  7. Nick Fanis

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    Μy custom handwired Tweed Deluxe ,with larger transformer that allows the use of 6V6 and 6L6 tubes and a "hot/cold" switch.
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    Just finished/debugged this morning - Tube-Town Emma, mini 5e3 Deluxe with modifications....

    - elevated heaters, referenced to the output valve cathode
    - power tube wired for 6N6P/6Н6П (Russion twin-triode, close to the JJ ECC99 that Tube-Town use)
    - three way NFB switch (normal/no bypass cap/NFB)
    - reduced coupling caps from 0.1uF to 20nF/30nF

    The 6Н6П I'm using are NOS Novosibirsk from 1978 and bought cheaply from a guy in the Ukraine - sound great and are a close match for the ECC99. You just have to wire the heater to pins 4 and 5 and ground pin 9 which is an internal shield (as opposed to ECC99 which follows the ECC../12A.. convention of 6.3V heater on 4+5/9).

    I originally had a switch to go between the two heater configurations, but it was contributing to all kinds of heater hum so I ditched the switch, went with the 6Н6П and tidied everything up. It's very quiet now :)

    NFB on a switch to V2a is inspired by @robrob.

    At first there was a some motorboating with the volume(s) dimed and blocking distortion, hence the reduced coupling caps to dump bass. Would be curious to revert (maybe to 50nF) now that the other issues are gone, but we'll see - it's easy enough to parallel extra caps to test.

    Next step is to assemble the head shell and mount the chassis.

     
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    My '61 5F1 Champ which I foolishly sold. 61 Champ.jpg

    And my '60 5E3 Deluxe which I also foolishly sold. Awesome amp. 1960 Deluxe.jpg

    Here's my 5F1 clone I built from a Boothill kit. A vintage Alnico speaker and NOS tubes really sweetened it's sound My 5F1.jpg

    And my replacement Deluxe. Not a clone because I built it from an incomplete kit (maybe Boothill) off Craigslist and opted to make a variation of a Tweed Royal. With a Mojo cabinet and a Weber 12A125-O (also from Craigslist) this guy can sound very close to my original 5E3. But it also can do other Fender tweed variations because of the various controls. One of my favorites is the 5F2A setting through the 12" Weber. The best mod I did though was to add a VVR. CIMG0002.JPG IMG_1828.JPG CIMG0004.JPG

    And a different type of tweed. My Gibson GA-5 Les Paul Junior. It's almost identical to a 5C1 with a octal preamp. Love the sound of this guy. Definitely a little different with the 6SJ7 octal preamp. s-l1600 (1).jpg IMG_1875.jpg
     
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    Nice herd! Tell me about how the 5B3 is compared to the 5E3. Do you have any recordings of both amps?
     
  12. El Tele Lobo

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    Wow...is that little thing a tube amp?
     
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    Very nice bedroom rig. Love the homemade amp stand and the matching tweed pedalboard. A couple nice teles and Esquire there too. Congrats!
     
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    You've had some nice tweeds over the years. Sorry those couple got away. But that replacement Deluxe you built sounds amazing. Would love to hear more about that one. You should do a YouTube video where you demo all the stuff it can do and post it here. I'm sure many on the forum would be inspired by your innovations. Thanks for sharing!
     
  16. Bill

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    Late-50s big-box Princeton. I forget which one, as I have two. These are the ones that came in a cabinet about the size of a Deluxe.

    The guitar is a 1952 Tele.

    Sorry I don’t have another pic handy as the amp is in storage.

     
  17. El Famoso

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    Sshhhhhh. If we tell everyone about these cheap Russian tubes the prices will go up...

    Btw you can swap that 12ax7 for a 6n2p with the same rewiring of the tube base. You can get those dirt cheap from the ukraine too.
     
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    Ha, mum's the word :)

    Yeah, throwing in a 6N2P did cross my mind. Pity 6N4Ps are as hard to find as cheap NOS 12AY7s!!
     
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    Oops double post
     
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    I’ve never been able to find a 6n4p listed for sale anywhere. 6n3ps are close, gain just a hair lower. I’m gonna try that as a substitute. I figure it’s a guitar amp so as long as it makes a pleasing noise I’m good.
     
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