Starting this thread mostly to vent, but also to see if anyone else has had the same experience and how you've dealt with it... I started taking guitar lessons for the first time (my first really serious effort to learn to play any instrument, not just guitar) about a year ago. I tried to make it clear to my first teacher that I wanted to learn "the right way" - understand the theory, the technique, etc., with the long-term goal of learning to create my own music rather than just learning to play somebody else's. I think maybe that teacher was not used to having a student that wanted to learn this way, because it seemed like no matter how often I talked to him about this, all he wanted to do was work on songs and would shy away from any discussion of more fundamental concepts. It was like pulling teeth even to get him to talk about things like major and minor scales. More often than not, lessons were more or less him asking me, "What song do you want to learn next?" Eventually, I realized that if he's supposed to be the teacher and I'm supposed to be the student, he should be the one deciding how we're spending our time together and telling me what I should be spending my practice time working on in order to help me develop into a successful player over time. Growing frustrated with the situation, I switched to a different teacher back in December. Generally, things have been better - we have talked more about theory and I've started to gain an understanding of keys, modes, etc. However, I feel like if I don't stay on top of this issue, the new teacher also wants to revert back to simply learning songs without placing them in a larger context of music fundamentals. As cool as I think it would be to (eventually) be able to play Angus's solo on Back in Black, as someone with less than a year of real guitar experience under his belt, I question the rationale of spending my practice time on something like that at this point (yes, this is a real example). I have two young sons (ages 9 and 6) who are taking piano lessons, and I look at the way small children are taught to play the piano - starting with simple finger exercises, building hand-eye coordination, moving slowly into basic theory and having them play simple songs that allow them to practice these fundamentals. It seems like an analogous approach could and should be used for someone learning to play the guitar as a first instrument, rather than throwing them into the deep end of the pool and basically trying to teach them to "shred" right from the get-go. However, in my (admittedly limited) experience, teachers don't seem to be inclined to take this approach. Quite honestly, I wonder how much of a teaching "system" the two teachers I've experienced really have. Any fellow forum members experience anything similar? Am I crazy for thinking that the learning process should be more about structure and fundamentals and less about learning to play individual songs? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.