Latest plague in rock music : guitar finish

Discussion in 'Finely Finished' started by ScareDe2, Sep 22, 2021.

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    I just received a mint Silvertone 633e reissue (Harmony H1260) and right out of the box it sounded like I was playing an unplugged electric guitar. No acoustic. I know some will say tone is in the fingers, but there is nothing fingers could do. I immediatly proceed to remove a layer of finish with a microfiber and a surface prep product. It helped. Then I used a magic eraser with same surface prep. Helped a little further. I had some polishing pad in the garage with polishing products. And that also allowed the wood to get more tone, more life. The guitar sounds very good. I also changed the strings to Earthwood 80/20 ligth-medium. Regardless, to kick this topic I will post 2 videos I found on youtube, please contribute with your thoughts about excessive gloss that manufacturers apply to guitar bodies to enhance their visual appeal (which end up messing the sound of the guitar).



     
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    What pedals were you running it through? That’s where guitar sounds come from.
     
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    When I purchased my Furch G24 CC I got it with an "open pore finish". Very little shine / an extra $186 / more than worth it !!!
     
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    Good news, no "rock" music has ever been made on an acoustic guitar. There are a handful of rock-'n'-roll performances that included acoustic guitar, but luckily 0 "rock" ones.

    So whatever kinds of music this "plague" is affecting, I can assure you that rock isn't one of them.

    As a separate issue, remember that you're not required to buy any guitar that sounds bad.

    And as a corollary to that non-requirement, remember that you're free to do whatever you want to things you own. Sand the finish off, paint designs on them, glue mirrors to them, cut off a chunk of wood for upper-fret access since you're a lefty and the guitar isn't, set fire to it on stage, smash it into your amps/the drum kit, literally anything. There's a lot of precedent.
     
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    I appreciate the relevant comments so far...

    Anecdote: The Beatles used to sand their guitars. Harrison said that once the finish is removed, they become much better guitars. He said when you take the paint and varnish off and get the bare wood, it seems to sort of breathe. I think that quote is from the late 60's. I suspect today's finish affects tone even more.
     
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    I agree with the luthier in that video. There's a reason the finest classical guitars are French polished. The guy playing the guitar should check his tuning/intonation.
     
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    And "thin skin" Nitro finishes are big sellers of Fender production guitars at Wildwood Guitars. Also .... the EJ Strat is made with a super thin finish for this same reason.
     
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    Why is a gloss finish on an acoustic guitar a "plague in rock music"?

    It's a budget guitar with a budget finish. There are budget guitars with no finish too (or at least very little).

    Personally, I wouldn't buy a guitar that I didn't like.
     
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    They sanded the finish off a trio of Epiphone Casinos on advice from Donovan Leitch.

    Ever see George's sanded Gretsches and John's sanded Rickenbackers? Neither have I.

    George even added finish to a Strat and played it that way.

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    Another anecdote: if the secret to the greatest guitar tone in the universe were no finish on a guitar, every player known for great tone would play bare-nekkid guitars, and all the major guitar makers would be selling them like that.

    Yeah, Rory Gallagher and Stevie Ray Vaughan got great sounds out of their battered Strats...but that was due to practice and years of slogging it out in the pubs.

    But you can believe what you like. Many otherwise 'normal' people believe in talking snakes, so there's that.
     
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    I'm pretty sure this fits the definition...

     
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    The extra finish probably didn’t impact the sound too much because he got so high he forgot to plug it in.
     
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    Good grief, really?
     
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    On quiet nights I can hear my guitars breathing, if the finish is thin enough.


    The way to avid this plague would be to not have bought the guitar in the first place.

    But now you get to have fun messing with it, and maybe if you sand off a lot of finish it will sound better. I doubt it--I bet the difference is all in your head. But it's fun to mess around and this is a factory made reissue of what back in the day was a low budget guitar, not some hand made luthier's masterpiece.

    But dude yes, the Beatles' success was TOTALLY due to sanding the finish off guitars.
     
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