1. Win a Broadcaster or one of 3 Teles! The annual Supporting Member Giveaway is on. To enter Click Here. To see all the prizes and full details Click Here. To view the thread about the giveaway Click Here.

Keith Richards' take on Jimmy Reed "V" chord

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by swolter, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. swolter

    swolter TDPRI Member

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    82
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    On pages 106-107 of "Life", Keith explains how Jimmy Reed played a V chord (B 7th) in an E blues progression. He says Jimmy left the A string open and slid his finger up the D string to a "7th."

    Does anybody understand how this works? What note is he saying to play on the D string? Do you continue playing the open A, or do you just let it ring?

    I can't find a note on the D string that sounds right (i.e, like a B 7th chord) against the open A string.

    Thanks!
     
  2. middy

    middy Friend of Leo's

    Age:
    50
    Posts:
    3,143
    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2010
    Location:
    MSP
    I wondered the same thing when I read that page...
     
  3. Suproman

    Suproman Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    508
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2006
    Location:
    Ottawa, ON, Canada
    That doesn't make too much sense to me, since the 7th in a B7 chord is A. Maybe he meant one of the other notes in the chord, which would leave B, D# or F#. Any way you play it, it will sound kind of funny with the 7th in the bass.

    Pat
     
  4. cousinpaul

    cousinpaul Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    3,582
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2009
    Location:
    Nashville TN
    I don't know if Jimmy did it that way, but 70780X doesn't sound too bad and I suppose an X0780X would pass if the bass player or a second guitar was holding down the low B. Both have the 7 on the D string.
     
  5. Shidoin

    Shidoin Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    876
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2009
    Location:
    Ventura CA
    I think he means you play the F# B and D# of a B chord with 1 finger and let the open A note ring. It sounds odd by itself, but might work with a second guitar and/or a bass. I haven't had a chance to try it out with others yet. That's the only way I can make sense of what he said.
     
  6. tap4154

    tap4154 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    10,678
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Location:
    Southern California
    I learned that years ago, not hard, but hard to explain. Maybe I'll make a quick video to show you. It's a cool trick.

    Edit: This...



    The A string is played open (when not fretted) as you descend back down.
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2010
    Wally likes this.
  7. Monster Mike Welch

    Monster Mike Welch Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    172
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Somerville, MA
    He's not talking about the chord itself, really - given the Jimmy Reed thing, I believe he means something like this:

    -----------------
    -----------------
    -----------------
    4-4-6-6-7-7-6-6
    0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
    -----------------

    Which I prefer to play more like this:

    ------------------
    ------------------
    ------------------
    4-4-4-4-4-4-7-7-
    0-0-5-6-0-0-0-0-
    ------------------

    Because it sounds more authentically Eddie Taylor/Jimmy Reed to me that way.
     
  8. BigDaddyLH

    BigDaddyLH Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    56,695
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2009
    Location:
    Kelowna, BC, Canuckistan
    x0444x doesn't sound odd to me. It just sounds like it want to be resolved, and isn't tension a good thing?

    You can walk it down to the IV7:

    x0444x -> x0333x -> x0202x

    Or resolve the A to a G# in the E chord, V->I:

    x0444x -> 3x243x
     
  9. swolter

    swolter TDPRI Member

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    82
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    Thanks......I'm pretty sure this is what I'm looking for. It sounds like Jimmy Reed to my ear, but I'm having trouble getting it from the video. Any chance you could tab it or explain it a little?
     
  10. tap4154

    tap4154 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    10,678
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Location:
    Southern California
    e------------------------------------------------------------
    B------------------------------------------------------------
    G------------------------------------------------------------
    D-4--4--------4--4--6--4--2--2--------2--2--4--4-----------
    A-2--2--5--6--0--0--0--0--0--0--3--4--0--0--0--0--2--------
    E---------------------------------------------------0-------

    I guess I could have just done that to begin with ;o)
     
  11. swolter

    swolter TDPRI Member

    Age:
    69
    Posts:
    82
    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Location:
    Indianapolis

    Thanks.... Much appreciated!
     
  12. tap4154

    tap4154 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    10,678
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    Location:
    Southern California
    Here's an old clip of Jimmy Reed using that:



    Looks like it's copied off some old video tape and is very low quality, but you get the jist.
     
  13. tele salivas

    tele salivas Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    8,893
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2008
    Location:
    Mounds, OK
    If you eer get a chane to read "Big Boss Man" , it is really excellent.. Keith's book is really excellent for the way he gives us little tidbits like this, as well as his take on so many things musical. Keith is really an incredible tactician. Very instinctual guy, but he does examine this stuff pretty thoroughly, and it goes right along with being a history enthusiast. He knows where he is coming from. So many players make it seem like they invent this stuff, their egos are so out of control. You can tell Keith's love of music and the guitar, and life itself, is very much intact and continues to grow. Be interesting to see what the future brings through his music. I can see him going hard core country-blues, but he writes such amazing piano ballads as well.
     
  14. Lvann4x

    Lvann4x NEW MEMBER!

    Age:
    39
    Posts:
    1
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2016
    Location:
    USA
    Keith himself answering that exact question. A few minutes in.
     
  15. MilwMark

    MilwMark Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    12,328
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2013
    Location:
    near Arnold's
    Cool vid.
     
  16. screamin eagle

    screamin eagle Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    5,254
    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Location:
    S. CA
    If you know chord construction just figure the notes then the fingering.
     
  17. Chris S.

    Chris S. Asst. Admin

    Age:
    66
    Posts:
    6,995
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2005
    Location:
    Near TELE-Town (Wash. DC)
    Timely answer, 5-1/2 years later. ;-) CS
     
  18. blowtorch

    blowtorch Telefied Ad Free Member

    Posts:
    36,801
    Joined:
    May 2, 2003
    Location:
    Wisco
    I enjoyed that. And that hack of Keith's reminded me why I quit smoking. He's like what, 52 in that vid? :p

    Always cool to hear the Malaguena story
     
  19. Jakeboy

    Jakeboy Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,588
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    Location:
    Sedalia, MO
    I have loved Keith and his playing all my life. Thanks for sharing that video.
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.