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Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by 1977CJ5, Sep 24, 2020.
Have used an American Sound into a Bandit, killer tone
They have registered resellers just like Amazon.
I don't think Joyo is alone in this regard. If you close and hard enough, you'll find this phenomenon persists throughout Sino-American commerce.. and not just confined to musical instruments.
IMO, a lot of people hear about this (and similar things) and ASSUME that because the price is reasonable or low, that it is junk. In the past, you could probably peg an 'r' value of about .8 for measuring association between 'quality' and 'cost' of many musical instruments and such. More recently, however, I would assert that r value is something more like 0.5. You could spend a LOT more money on a tone gadget and not get anywhere near the sound/tones out of the AS for that price. Some things are good despite the price, not because of it.
Funny, I have the same exact two (and only those two).
I've been using my Zoom g1on for awhile instead, but as I recall I have a slight preference for the American Sound over the AC Tone, since it has a fuller EQ (maybe more bass). But they are both very classy.
Every pedal builder copies what came before. There are only really three kinds of effects: Drive, volume, compression effects, modulation effey, and reverb/delay effects. They just tweak to taste.
Design-stealing is the sincerest form of flattery.
You probably saw that I am playing through a JC22, so I know in my case you are correct. Have not tried it through any other amps. I will say I have tried many pedals and multi effects through the JC22 and nothing has come close to changing the character and feel of the amp as the JOYO.
BTW, the JC22 is really nice on its own too.
I use my new ( maybe a month) American Sound basically to add some mids and focus the bass a bit to my little Fender Frontman 25R, which I actually use on gigs.
The Frontman has an 'almost there ' BF/SF clean tone, but sounds a little tinkly and 'direct' .So the AS corrects this, it's ALWAYS ON.
( I put the Frontman EQ knobs at NOON, and just use the Reverb and Clean channel knobs now)
I don't like how OD actually sounds coming from the American Sound, but Drive at 9:00 and Voice at 10::00 is great!
Since I thought a Tube Screamer might be a good fit for this amp ( with its 'mid bump' plus I don't need a lot of dirt, just some drive and a little crunch) and I did not actually have one now, I just bought a JOYO Vintage Overdrive ( a TS!)
So I'm a JOYO fan!
This is a great fit with the AS and the Frontman. Here are basic settings for both ( not that I won't tweak):
I had the JC77 years ago - little brother to the JC120 at the time with 77 watts and 2 - 10” speakers. It was a great amp and a much more portable option to the 80 watt Twins others were playing.
I've been running an American Sound pedal into the new Harmony 8418 amp for about a month, and they're a match made in heaven. The 8418 stays cleanish all the way up to full power, but the AS can push it across the line into delicious bluesy crunch territory. And since the amp has just a volume knob and no tone controls, the tone-shaping of the pedal makes the amp far more versatile. Harmony and Joyo should team up and include an American Sound pedal with every amp purchase.
Those of you who have other pedals, or maybe a multi, where do you put the AS in your chain?
And can you use it in conjunction with another clean boost like a Boosta Grande?
I put it at the end before the D.I., i use it clean, you can even put it before delay or reverb if you want, nothing will happen...
I have two American Sound pedals. one lives on my pedal board (and leave it on there). it goes into a Tweed Blues Deluxe, usually always on.
it's so easy to change the character of the amp to a cleanish tweed twin or crunchy 5e3 sound territory .
the other one is on my desk to directly plug into my Behringer X18 mixer or home noodling.
Anybody willing to share their settings ?
I'm a simpleton, most times it is:
>> Compressor >> AS (also have the AC Tone, but don't use it much) >> Analog Delay >> Amp
These *can* really bump your signal up quite a lot. Be careful you don't stack too many and blow the input of your amp!
This is sample settings for the American Sound. The clean setting is a pretty solid clean boost
This one is sample settings for the AC Tone:
I gig the below pedal board into a Fender Champion 100. The Joyo American adds so much flavor. The signal chain is The Duellist which is an awesome dual OD, Keely 4 knob Compressor, Joyo American, then out to amp. I removed the Xotic Super Sweet I had on there for solo boost as well. The Mic Mechanic is obviously going to the board for the PA. This is all powered by the MXR Mini Iso Brick. Those settings I used for one of my Tele's.
I use those Nuge settings on mine sometimes, including that gnarly high drive setting and man, it’s close, though one would be wise to put a noise gate after it or it can get a little crazy.
Oh, straight to effects loop return on an Orange 35RT.