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Jensen P12N, Weber 12A150, Eminence Canis Major or Tone Tubby Red Alnico

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by teleman78, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. teleman78

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    Hey Guys,

    I need some recommendations here. Jim from Lil' Dawg Amps is currently building me a Wonderdawg and I'm still very undecided on what speaker to get for it. I know I want Alnico or Neo mag comparable, Here are my top choices in no particular order:

    Jensen P12N (Alnico) - $180 (Available immediately)
    Weber 12A150 (Alnico) - $208 (4 week lead time)
    Eminence Canis Major (Alnico) - $189 (Available immediately)
    Tone Tubby Red Alnico - $250 (Available immediately)

    Which would you recommend and why?

    Thanks in advance,
     
  2. uriah1

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    bite the bullet and get a gold. alnicos heaven. wish you luck. had a p12n once. took awhile to break new one in. never played others listed. wish you luck. nice amp there
     
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    Red Fang.
     
  4. teleman78

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    Thanks for your replies. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting the amp. In all honesty $300 for a Alnico Gold is a bit too much for me right now. I think my budget is $200 max, so that immediately disqualifies Tone Tubby Alnico Red and the Celestion Gold as mentioned here.

    That leaves me with the choice between the Jensen P12N, Eminence Canis Major & Weber 12A150.

    I've read some people not liking the Weber that much, they call it "Ice Picky" for a blackface style amp.. I'm having second thoughts about that one plus, 4 week lead time is kind of a pain.

    For me at this point is really between the Jensen and the Eminence but to be honest, I'm kind of leaning towards the Eminence Canis Major; it seems to have really, really good reviews... has a 7 year warranty and is made in the USA by a great company. It's unfortunate that there isn't much audio about it on the web.

    Comments are always welcome
     
  5. Mike Eskimo

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    I had a 12" Tone Tubby in my '73 Princeton Reverb and it was more of everything when compared to a bandmate's '71 PR w/ a 10" Celestion.


    A way more dimensional sound and much louder.
     
  6. robt57

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    Agree...
     
  7. teleman78

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    But isn't the Red Fang a "British" sounding speaker? The Wonderdawg is an American Blackface styled amp... Wouldn't a Canis Major be a better fit for the amp?
     
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    Not familiar, but probably. But I like a Greenback in a SFDR...
    In fact I luv a GB in a DR.
     
  9. ruger9

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    Canis Major is a very syrupy sounding (thick) speaker, especially once broken in. If you have ever played a C-Rex, it's very similar, except the Major seems to have more lows, and of course the smooth alnico compression at higher volumes.

    I have a C-rex in my Supersonic 22, but I would have put a Major in if it would have fit. For a BF Bandmaster (that's what the Wonderdawg is, right?) I think I would go with the Weber first, then if you find it too bright try the Eminence. The wait on the Webers DOES suck. I'd stay away from the new Jensens... 90% of the reviews say they are too bright, and while I'd love to try a TT, I never have because they are expensive.

    I'm after a Bandmaster myself- but I want the tweed one, 5E7.
     
  10. Jakeboy

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    Red Fang or find a used EV SRO.
     
  11. teleman78

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    Man! You guys really love that Red Fang speaker! Maybe that's what I should try... It just seems unnatural to me to put a British voiced speaker into a Black Face amp.. I'm now more confused than before :confused:
     
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    I think WGS makes a P12N type speaker. Looks like it's called the G12A.
     
  13. ruger9

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    Tone is taste... imo, the red fang is a BF amp would be so trebly it would take people's heads off at 20 paces, like a blizzard of nails. The BF amps have all the treble they'll ever need and then some, you don't need a speaker accentuating it even more.

    But, everybody hears things differently...

    For the record, "American" and "British" shouldn't come in to play. You like what you like. Saints Leo Fender and Jim Marshall aren't going to make sure you don't get into heaven because you mixed and matched.
     
  14. teleman78

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    You made some very valid points. I just wish that you could try out a speaker and exchange it for a different if I don't like it. It really sucks to spend $200+ on a speaker not end up liking it and having to keep it, this forum is a very good tool for that reason, it let's us explore others opinions to helps us make a better decision.
     
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    I remember someone starting a mail order "rent a pedal business".... "rent a speaker" would be even better...

    AND- you'd always be auditioning a BROKEN IN speaker.
     
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    Except you could never know it the voice coil wire temper... well lost it;s temper let's say... And would you be getting the best example of what a particular speaker can/does sound like I wonder.

    Just thinking out loud [with my fingers] :cool:
     
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    Speakers are way too easy to mess up.
     
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    My lord that would be glorious right now.

    Even a music store that had a wall of 112s that you could easily plug into would be better than "well um...we can order that for you..."
     
  20. teleman78

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    I wish! I'd probably have saved at least $1k by now
     
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