Jazz tone

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  1. craigoslo

    craigoslo Tele-Meister

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    How does the .005 sound? I'm sure someone around here has something lower than .022.
     
  2. Robert H.

    Robert H. Friend of Leo's

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    I use 10's but put an 11 on the high e for a little more umph.
     
  3. blille

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    It's a bit of an an acquired taste TBH. In the neck can roll it almost to 3 and still retain most of the highs I like to retain so it's perfect. In the bridge it sounds like a cocked wah when rolled off which is not the most versatile. In the tele where I have it , I only have a neck pickup and I use it exclusively for Jazz with 12 flatwounds.

    022 is a great start and if you see you like where it takes you and you use that guitar mostly for Jazz or don't touch the tone knob in the bridge then I would go 005. That's just my opinion, through many mistakes I've learned to be more cautious :)
     
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    tons of mids , front pickup, velvet and leather pick!
     
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    I'd say the first thing you really want to do is adjust your expectations. A Tele will never sound like an archtop, even if you put a humbucker in the neck position :)

    As for the "thin" sounding E string, if you're rolling down the volume/tone, you're throwing away the frequencies that give body to that string. Also, Fender style pickups are notorious for thin sounding high E strings at lower volumes. The perception tends to disappear with higher volume.

    If you really want to change the tone of the guitar, I'd recommend a different kind of pickup, something like a Fralin Steel Pole or better yet, a p90. Keep in mind if you do go for a p90 or humbucker, you'll probably need to rout out the neck position even if it looks like it already has a humbucker rout. Humbuckers often have "ears" that need a deeper cavity than the body of the pickup and p90's are wider than a humbucker. I've had 2 of my teles routed for these reasons.

    Teles are great for modern jazz tones. For a more "trad" jazz tone, I've given up on Teles and use a Guild Aristocrat or Slim Jim. It's the hollow body p90 combo that does it for me!
     
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    Me too.
     
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    I moved from a single coil to a humbucker in mine and I have a casino like guitar (p90, hollow) so I get your comments.

    Then again, one can make it work. It's a matter of taste.

     
  8. craigoslo

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    Ed Bickert is one of my favorites. And this an early video before he added the humbucker.

    Here is my new favorite telcaster player.

     
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    Following on the tone control issue. I would try keeping the tone on your guitar fully open, and shaving off just a bit of volume. I used to have the "thin E" problem too, but 11s + this setting do goof things for me. I also second the thick pick advice. I use 2 mm.

    Good luck!
     
  10. musicalmartin

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    I have just done it the easy way .I bought a DV mark Little jazz.Perfect with my Midtown and Telecaster .I use a 4 way switch on my Tele through Van Zandts which beefs up the tone to give a cool warm jazzy tone.
     
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    Conclusion:

    I have been pushing the mids and cutting treble and bass on fender amps with great results but also wanted a solution for my amps with a tone nob.

    I dropped a .015 cap in my tele today and it was exactly what I was hoping for. Great tones and a usable pot all the way down to 0. The thin E string kept all of its volume but isn't bright.
    Very happy.
    Now I can adjust at the amp or the guitar, or a bit of both depending on the backline.
    Thanks for your input.
     
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    I play my tele for jazz, 11-49 gauge strings.

    The solution for me was a compressor pedal...specifically, one with a clean blend knob. I use the Xotic SP Comp, with only about 25% Low compression blended in. Retains my tone and dynamics, but now all my strings are more even volume-wise, and no plinky issues with the high strings for clean tone soloing.
     
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    Glad it worked out!
     
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    For jazz tones, you can't beat a 5-way pickup selector with series in-phase and series out of phase. Series in-phase gives a lovely warm jazz tone. Series out of phase is nothing like parallel out of phase, which is thin and weedy. It's a fairly simple mod, and well worth it. I've done this on my three Teles and I don't know why Fender don't offer it.
     
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    I'm intrigued. What does it sound like? Can you put up a video demo or sound clip of your in-phase vs. out-of-phase series positions?
     
  16. musicalmartin

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    A four way switch set up makes the neck much more jazzy ,i have one in my Tele.Van Zandt pickups .A good way to get a straight jazz tone on a tele neck pickup is to fit an A2 Alnico pro from SD and a four way switch .Through my little Champ 600 it just gave a pure clean jazz tone with no tone adjustment on light strings .Wish I still had it.
     
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    I second the compressor suggestion. But, it has to have a blend knob and can't ruin your tone.
     
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