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Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by customtele, Sep 4, 2018.
Anyone know if there is an updated James Werner serial # list past 8/1988? Thanks!
No, but do you have the old list? Would it be possible to show it in this forum?
It'd be interesting to see that list indeed. I collected about 900 tele serials (1950-1959) with pics from ebay auctions, etc. over the years. Would be nice to compare my list to Werner's list.
Yes, I have the list but it is a lot of paper! I'm researching the number of known Broadcaster's. Have 122.
108 of them...
Wow, quite a list you guys got going.
Figure you already got my Nocaster in there somewhere, lol.
I got a quick related question for the list holders...
Anybody 'seen' or know of a 51 Broadcaster? Guitar HQ said there might be a few out there (IF I remember correctly)
Yes, I have your nocaster in there. Guilty as charged... Don't worry, my list is not public. I would not know how to deal with all the picture rights.
I have a few 1951 broadcasters on my list, yes. Can't tell you how many right now, I'll have to check tomorrow.
My list is not public either, however, the Werner list was always available for a small fee. I would love to cross reference our lists. Werner's list does have dates and there are several 51 Broadcaster's. Let me know via PM if you have any interest in cross referencing. Kevin
I also collected at least 45 or so Broadcaster's just by simple internet searches.
Thanks for the info. ️
I always figured having all three 'casters' in the 51 flavor would be... Um... For lack of a better term, "it". It's nice to know it's possible, no matter how unlikely, lol!
(& cool, enjoy the pics ️)
Lots of resources for these numbers.....the one above looks fairly well-organized and shows how the numbers in many, many situations are of little help in knowing when the guitar was built.
On page 34 of Nacho Banos’ Blackguard book, citing Richard Smith, he states:”87 Broadcasters were produced in January  and as many as 48 units were produced before February 23rd, when they presumably started to clip off decals.” So by his math, about 135 Broadcasters were produced in 1951, and about 142 in 1950, for a total of 277. But then he says the 142 for 1950 is too optimistic (given the learning curve) and estimates no more than 250 Broadcasters were produced.
Interesting stuff here. After comparing lists with Nacho and Sonicdom I now have a list of 168 Broadcasters with serial numbers, two prototypes and 6 without a known serial number. Lowest number 0002 and highest number 1899. I know there are others in collection, e.g., Dirk Ziff, Vince Gill, but they may be ones that were in books or already known. Many of these books and lists were made in more innocent times with people sharing serial numbers without knowledge about guitars being stolen and sued for possessing stolen guitars or whatever. It looks as if the number of less than 250 is correct. Possibly less.
Also, 5 of my numbers are 3 digit which probably correspond to a 4 digit number so that should probably be taken into account. Two are known 4 digit numbers making my known number 166.
Also approximately 35% of the Broadcasters are fully or partially refinished.
I did not include Esquires.