I've been solicited for guitar doodly-doo recordings

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  1. cometazzi

    cometazzi Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    A friend of mine knows another person who does podcasts regarding tabletop games. They were looking for some royalty-free "guitar pieces" to use as background music or filler between sections. Since I sit around and come up with instrumental riff-raff all the time, it seems like it would be fun.

    It's probably uncompensated (except for recognition, as we all know is worthless), which doesn't bother me. However, I'd be willing to put it into writing that anything I record for them they can use royalty-free, so long as I can use the same material for any other purpose later if I chose. The probability of me striking a record deal or anything is minimal, but I still want to keep "my stuff".

    I've been paid $X per track for studio work before, but I've never done anything like this, so I don't know how to approach it. I don't know if I'm being obtuse here or not. The podcaster is pretty small-potatoes so it's not like he has any money, and as a "friend of a friend" I feel like it'd be cool to contribute to something.

    Anyone ever done anything like this? I'd like to give my friend's friend some cool riffs and musical stuff to use for free, but still 'keep' it.
     
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    Perhaps he should showcase or at least recognize your work on this podcast.
     
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    Royalty Free?
    Public Domain rag-time, traditional fiddle-tune, something from the "old country" (wherever your "old country" roots are from).

    Donate the playing time, but not a composition you've written, as it's probably being treated as "work for hire".
    Each time I've presented something at a "continuing education" event that has been recorded, somebody has scurried up to me just before the camera goes on, to have me sign a release of all rights, and to allow the org to replay forever w/o any compensation to me.

    And - congrats on the "exposure"

    Peace - Deeve
     
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    If you write it, you own it. You can allow someone to use if for free if you like, but you still own it. There's really nothing you need to do to stake a claim.
     
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    I composed some instrumental music for a friend’s indie movie he was directing. It was pretty cool, I got to do some dark ambient type stuff. It was kind of a horror movie. I did it for free, didn’t make a contract or anything.

    As it turned out, he and the main actress/producer had a falling out and they got a different director. When it was released my music wasn’t in it. Oh well.
     
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    I once had a professional acquaintance who would call me to meet him at a studio to record jingles for the ad agency he worked for. He already had the music written and demo'd, so all we had to do was run through it once or twice and hit the record button. He would book the studio for 4 hours, we finished the job in an hour, then recorded demo's he was shopping to record companies for 3 hrs. on the ad agency's dime. SPOILER ALERT: He never got signed & we're still nobodies.
     
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    You could try to use a creative commons copyright. In truth, if you don't have the time, willingness or money to sue, no IP legal protection makes a difference.
     
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    Don't sign anything without a lawyer looking at it... ever.
     
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    If you mean not being paid for playing - Yes.

    Give them a couple of tracks of Whack, see how it goes.

    If they find someone who can do better for LESS Money......
     
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    I agree in basic theory with this, but would offer a counter-perspective.

    Be the presenter of the contract, with your terms clearly defined.
    If someone asks me for my services, we discuss terms, come to an agreement, then I offer them a contract.
    Its not the other way around.
    Take the proper offensive position before you wind up playing defense.
    Then you can relax and give them your best shot, since everyone has agreed to mutually beneficial terms for both sides.
     
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    I wouldn’t do it for free. Your time, effort and skill is worth something.

    even if it’s very little, at least you’ll be compensated.
     
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    It totally ticks me off that people actually ask for free music.
    And I am not happy about the people who say "yes" and provide it.
    Writing music and then giving it away for free just continues to ruin any hope of earning a living as a musician, and further reinforces the public opinion that music should be free.
    I won't even get into what it costs us over the years.

    Why are musicians so willing to give up the goods for nothing, and in the process help ruin the business for those who are indeed attempting to earn a living at it.
    Why should people who earn money from the use of music, not pay for it?

    Not trying to start an argument. I just happened across this post and I don't understand why the assumption is that the music should be free.
     
  16. cometazzi

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    I think you guys are sorely over-estimating my skill and the value of anything I could produce. I'm not up to snuff to take the food out of the mouths of real musicians, I'm just a hack.
     
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