It's True...Applying New Grill Cloth is a *****

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I would have bought my grill cloth from Antique Electronic Supply but they did not seem to have a BF Fender weave. I bought the grill cloth seen on the initial post, from Marsh Amplification.
 

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Pulled it off and re-used the same Grill Cloth. I got some tips from an old professional grill cloth applicator in the 70's. This round is better. I am happy with the results. The corners are starting to fray now. I still plan to make another baffle with a 10" cutout. This one here is 12". It's also a tiny bit short. I want the chassis tighter to the top of the board. I will build another baffle board then use my last piece of new grill cloth. I'll have it dialed by the 3rd try. It's been a fun project, building my own baffle boards.

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Right buggers are the big 4x12" silverface amps with their heavy, skinny chipboard baffle cloth frame. Pull to tight, and they twist and warp up, or worse still - snap. And the staples need to real neat and close together to get enough hold in that crumbly edge , but not so near the edge that they split it out. Its a good idea to apply a filling coat of white glue right around the edge once the old cloth is off, before putting the new one on, to help secure it. Better still - make a whole new ply frame.
 

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I've done many grill cloths in my day. If its a cloth material, like on these fenders their is much easier way to do this. Lay your cloth down, then place your baffle without speaker on it and line it up, nice and square. Make sure your baffle edges are clean from old cloth and staples. Buy a can of 3M adhesive. shake real well and spray a little a empty pill bottle. Use a small one inch paint brush and apply just the top baffle with the glue. Wait five minutes for glue to get tacky. Fold over cloth evenly and lightly smooth. I wait at least an hour then do the bottom. Gently lift up the baffle and use any small spritzer bottle and dampen the cloth with water.You really don't have to stretch the bottom cloth as much as you think to get a nice even tight look. Repeat the process for sides one at a time. Once dry, flip over and trim, I use a ruler and sharp knife to trim. Trim at least a quarter of an inch into the glue down cloth. Makes nice edges without fraying or coming apart. And that's it. This link below will show of of the cloths I did. good luck.

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If you are on the East coast, Mojo would be a good place to get grill cloth. AES is here in AZ.
 

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I've never used glue of any type on a grillcloth board, I don't see how you could stretch the cloth to get the lines straight, and it would be very easy for the glue to bleed through the grillcloth as open as it is.

I tried the link but all I got was a picture of what appears to be a painted grillcloth on a cabinet.


The grillcloth boards that are removable on the later SF amps are a pain as they often warp, or break or both, I've had them break just trying to get them to turn loose from the Velcro.
I have been able to glue and clamp some of those to fix them, but also have made new boards out of plywood.
MDF is a pain to deal with when it starts to crumble.
 

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Vintage Fender cloth is a pain to make look perfect, but stretching brown basketweave on a Marshall 4x12 left my hands aching, and ended up a tiny bit crooked in the upper right corner where I put the last of the staples. Hard enough to see with no stripes.
I've only stretched old Fender cloth on new baffles, easier with the old creases and lower expectations.
It's funny, my wife paints and has some stretching pliers, but it didn't occur to me to try to use them, as I went with whatever instructions I found specific to the heavy basketweave, which would probably stop arrows if you made a vest out of it.

The little Prince looks pretty nice...
 

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I've never used glue of any type on a grillcloth board, I don't see how you could stretch the cloth to get the lines straight, and it would be very easy for the glue to bleed through the grillcloth as open as it is.

He was saying to just put glue around the edges to firm all the little tear out spots from removing the staples. Not as part of the cloth replacement part.
 

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That's not how I understood it, and if that is what the post meant, what good would spray glue do for voids in the MDF from staples? Maybe use some wood filler or fill with some CA (thin superglue wicked into the wood and followed by some kicker)
Not being argumentative, I just don't understand what you'd achieve by using spray glue.
If you have a bad baffle it's time to make or buy a replacement IMO.
 

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Oh - I see that now. I thought we were talking about an earlier comment and not the spray glue comment.

Yeah...no idea how glue of any type would help anything. Never used that.
 

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First off.. I'm only referring to cloth, not basket weave for a glue down. Also, the post was referring to a 1x12 fender. I would never glue down a cloth on mdf period. or plywood that's old, and lost its integrity over time. Sorry, I sent the wrong link. Here's a couple 1x12's with a glue down.
 

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