Not that anyone appointed me to give an award for the best metaphor in this thread, but I am awarding it to the one where a bar owner does some renovations Legally they own the bar, but if no one drinks there they have a problem. I think the 2 sides of this debate are summed up in the analysis of ownership and goodwill I think the disgruntled voices on here sound like the barflies in Moe's Tavern on The Simpsons who say they 'like the dank' when he tries to lighten up the place. In truth, maybe a new owner would love all those barflies cleared out and a new snazzy high spending customer come in consuming fancy cocktails with high margins.... But will those customers come into a bar with a picture of a bsb tele hanging over the door? And if he gets rid of all the regulars... Metaphor OVEREXTENDED Some people in this thread sound too needy. I think of the forum as a blackboard in class I can write something on. I have to right to it ever being read, or not wiped off by a teacher. Chill out!