It feels so to really be heard by another person (to overstate the obvious once again)

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I Was talkin' to the # 1 cutter at the surgery department and her #1 assistant at the chop shop. And... Mr. ping ping we can't do the surgery because your breathing prohibits your being anesthetized because you could die as a result of your breathing.
She seemed concerned about my well being.
I said that's o.k with me Doctor Katana, but hey it's o.k. with me either way not now or maybe latter , but, from my perspective we can just go ahead and do it now because either way the ostomy issue will be resolved and we can eliminate all the waiting around.
Why don't we do it now either way the outcome is fine with me .
(I'm 74 years old and I have had a very entertaining life and I'm cool with today and not having another day afterward).
" Dr. Katana you have described a win/win situation to the perceived conundrum, either way it's win/ win."

She heard me and she understood that I was telling her the truth , of my perspective, that live or die it was all the same to me.
You see death on the table is painless , no pain, no suffering no bearing the weight of this mortal coil for another day and I get to lay my burden down as the spiritual goes, or a completed surgery with a resolved colostomy.
Dr. Katana got really quiet an I knew that she heard me, knowing that I wasn't half stepping.
It's a true story. She said when you can walk up two flights of stairs without being short of breath, we'll schedule the surgery.

When I was in the Cancer support group we had a really high rate of turn over do to the mortality rate of participating members in the group.
My fellow group members suffered a lot because they couldn't resolve themselves to being mortal. They were terrified of Death and suffered greatly as a result.
I am not a stranger to being mortal or the deep down and dirty blues in my life, having to live with PTSD my whole life , suicidal ideation was the scrap yard dog that was my best friend. I saw cancer as a possible ticket out of the rat race, I had been in recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism for decades , I'd seen my friends die along the way from "road wear", I had made friends with Mr Death, and I had made my peace with what's on the menu today, rain or shine.
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I Was talkin' to the # 1 cutter at the surgery department and her #1 assistant at the chop shop. And... Mr. ping ping we can't do the surgery because your breathing prohibits your being anesthetized because you could die as a result of your breathing.
She seemed concerned about my well being.
I said that's o.k with me Doctor Katana, but hey it's o.k. with me either way not now or maybe latter , but, from my perspective we can just go ahead and do it now because either way the ostomy issue will be resolved and we can eliminate all the waiting around.
Why don't we do it now either way the outcome is fine with me .
(I'm 74 years old and I have had a very entertaining life and I'm cool with today and not having another day afterward).
" Dr. Katana you have described a win/win situation to the perceived conundrum, either way it's win/ win."
She heard me and she understood that I was telling her the truth , of my perspective, that live or die it was all the same to me.
You see death on the table is painless , no pain, no suffering no bearing the weight of this mortal coil for another day and I get to lay my burden down as the spiritual goes, or a completed surgery with a resolved colostomy.
Dr. Katana got really quiet an I knew that she heard me, knowing that I wasn't half stepping.
It's a true story. She said when you can walk up two flights of stairs without being short of breath, we'll schedule the surgery.
When I was in the Cancer support group we had a really high rate of turn over do to the mortality rate of participating member in the group My fellow group members suffered a lot because they couldn't resolve themselves to being mortal. They were terrified of Death and suffered greatly as a result. I am not a stranger to being mortal or the deep down and dirty blues in my life, having to live with PTSD my whole life , suicidal ideation was the scrap yard dog that was my best friend. I saw cancer as a ticket out of the rat race, I had been in recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism for decades , I'd seen my friends die along the way from road wear, I had made friend with Mr Death. And had made my peace with what's on the menu today, rain or shine.
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That sounds like a pretty good paraphrase from Pg 86 of a Book I'm betting you've already seen:
On awakening let us think about the twenty-four hours ahead.
We consider our plans for the day.
Before we begin, we ask G*d to direct our thinking, especially asking that it be divorced from self-pity, dishonest or self-seeking motives.
Under these conditions we can employ our mental faculties with assurance, for after all G*d gave us brains to use.
Our thought-life will be placed on a much higher plane when our thinking is cleared of wrong motives.

In thinking about our day we may face indecision.
We may not be able to determine which course to take.
Here we ask G*d for inspiration, an intuitive thought or a decision.
We relax and take it easy.
We don't struggle.

We are often surprised how the right answers come after we have tried this for a while.


It's working for me, too.
Peace - Deeve
 

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I used to pray every night before I went to sleep.
Yeah can you dig it , Mr. no Gods no Masters Praying? the ironic contradiction, yeah I know it all ready , I've got a head full of whooey.
I'd say thanks for everything that came my way today,
and if it's your will I don't want to wake up in the morning,
if it's what you've got in store for me, if I wake up it's by your will and I'm good with that.
I'd wake up and say show me what you want , please just for today.
Yeah I know, My spiritual path from darkness into light is as perplexing as bevis and butt head writting a spiritual guide to snake worshipping for the uninitiated . remember T.P. for my bung hole.?
The update is I have been working with a great shrink.
And my hat size is a solid 7 3/4. , lots of hats for that size head.
The GIFT OF EXTREME CHILD ABUSE JUST KEEPS ON GIVING
Please believe me I've done the research
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They are concerned with the liability of you going under while they are aware of your breathing ability.

If you die and they let you go under with breathing troubles your family could sue.

If you die because the will not operate due to your breathing ability they have no liability.

If only they were concerned about your health care, rather than your liability to them as a health care provider....

They don't care if you live or die

They care about being liable for your death (or life for that matter.)
 

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Well, I hope your menu contains a big bowl of life .

There’s a dumb but good Kevin Costner movie called Dances With Wolves.

One of the natives says - “it’s a good day to die !”

(Or was that little big man ? )
Mr. Smarty Pants sez
" and to what end ?"
this is not a question it's a statement about the
nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing,
as Flipper Vocalist Will Shatter would sing of the galactic state of things.

Having founded the Church of the
Misanthropic Nihilist church comes with some perks and merch but no future.
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They are concerned with the liability of you going under while they are aware of your breathing ability.

If you die and they let you go under with breathing troubles your family could sue.

If you die because the will not operate due to your breathing ability they have no liability.

If only they were concerned about your health care, rather than your liability to them as a health care provider....

They care about being liable for your death (or life for that matter.)
Dude
If you die and they let you go under with breathing troubles your family could sue.
Dear ......... I said that I had Chemobrain: this condition, in case you didn't know, it does not include being brain dead.
My family is all dead, your working on an incomplete assumption in this.
If only they were concerned about your health care, rather than your liability to them as a health care provider....
Do you know the surgeon involved, Dr Katona ?
Have you ever even had a cup of tea with her and looked into her eyes and felt her vibrations?
I think not. I would suggest that your posted assumptions be base on empirical knowledge rather than hastily formulated assumptions that in this case are very, very ,very wide of the mark.
As William S. Burroughs said to a literary critic " save it for the rubes"


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find some stairs and walk up em
Thanks, you know I too had thought of that, oooooh! augh!
you know the Peanuts image of Lucy and Charlie Brown
Theirs me Charlie Brown-jah ( kill bill.)and Lucy, life, snatching the ball away in a playful manner. I always fall for the cute girls.
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They are concerned with the liability of you going under while they are aware of your breathing ability.

If you die and they let you go under with breathing troubles your family could sue.

If you die because the will not operate due to your breathing ability they have no liability.

If only they were concerned about your health care, rather than your liability to them as a health care provider....

They don't care if you live or die

They care about being liable for your death (or life for that matter.)

The fact that everything said here is true is also the reason I, personally, am fed up with the whole legal system of "Who can we blame", "How can we make some bread out of this, etc., etc.

ping-ping-clicka,
Find out if they have something you could sign that would wave the right of your survivors to penalize the hospital and staff for doing something you specifically gave them permission to do. You may need an assessment about your mental state at the time of your request to the doctors. It's just because of our freakin' legal system and the inherent greed of law firms that make this step a necessity. I truly wish you the best and hope you become healthy and live another 20+ years, but, I also hear you and respect your right to make this type of end of life decision. If my wife passes before I do and I'm not burdened with how will she make it without me questions I'm sure my desire to go out in a quiet and peaceful manner would top any need to live another day just to live another day.
 

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I Was talkin' to the # 1 cutter at the surgery department and her #1 assistant at the chop shop. And... Mr. ping ping we can't do the surgery because your breathing prohibits your being anesthetized because you could die as a result of your breathing.
She seemed concerned about my well being.
I said that's o.k with me Doctor Katana, but hey it's o.k. with me either way not now or maybe latter , but, from my perspective we can just go ahead and do it now because either way the ostomy issue will be resolved and we can eliminate all the waiting around.
Why don't we do it now either way the outcome is fine with me .
(I'm 74 years old and I have had a very entertaining life and I'm cool with today and not having another day afterward).
" Dr. Katana you have described a win/win situation to the perceived conundrum, either way it's win/ win."

She heard me and she understood that I was telling her the truth , of my perspective, that live or die it was all the same to me.
You see death on the table is painless , no pain, no suffering no bearing the weight of this mortal coil for another day and I get to lay my burden down as the spiritual goes, or a completed surgery with a resolved colostomy.
Dr. Katana got really quiet an I knew that she heard me, knowing that I wasn't half stepping.
It's a true story. She said when you can walk up two flights of stairs without being short of breath, we'll schedule the surgery.

When I was in the Cancer support group we had a really high rate of turn over do to the mortality rate of participating members in the group.
My fellow group members suffered a lot because they couldn't resolve themselves to being mortal. They were terrified of Death and suffered greatly as a result.
I am not a stranger to being mortal or the deep down and dirty blues in my life, having to live with PTSD my whole life , suicidal ideation was the scrap yard dog that was my best friend. I saw cancer as a possible ticket out of the rat race, I had been in recovery from drug addiction and alcoholism for decades , I'd seen my friends die along the way from "road wear", I had made friends with Mr Death, and I had made my peace with what's on the menu today, rain or shine.
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Love the humour in your posts despite the situation not being funny.
 

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I guess this is what really counts.

I hope you being able to climb a couple flights of stairs, I like you around.
thanks, for telling me that, oh If never have the surgery I'm gonna be alright , I will continue to have a more intimate relationship with my fecal matter than I would prefer but then the age old question , " do my poop stink? the answer is yes absolutely not worse that being around someone who doesn't wipe because they think that they don't need to. bleeeck!
Every week when I go to see my shrink, I walk up two flights of stairs , I at this time, don't make more than 3/4 of one flight before I have to pause, So the surgery in my head has been rescheduled well into the astral plain timewise. Which is cool because ostomy "holster are much easier to change on the astral plain. Yeah I have a sense of humor regarding myself and my on going drama drama drama drama.
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