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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by blowtorch, Jan 24, 2020.
I'm not sure about the kids these days, but my crowd did a lot of partying up until relatively recently. I'm 33 now, and went hard all through my 20's. I'm in Minneapolis, and there was never a shortage of rowdy shows, booze, all kinds of substances, and people that were down to stay up til the next day.
So I'm not sure if it's changed a whole lot here in the 5 years since I've simmered down, but there was some pretty crazy stuff happening in the last 15 years up here. I think it's also that party people will find party people, regardless of the overall BAC of the city
I think it's a combo of tighter drinking laws and enforcement, no-smoking-in-bars laws, and video, gaming and internet encroaching on drinking to loud music as a form of entertainment. My sons (24 to 30) will drink, but basically just a couple beers in an evening.
In an odd way I feel like they're missing something, but it's probably just because I have an idea in my head based on how I acted.
You must be playing the same places we do.
Yeah, what happened to those packed loud house parties when you heard the sirens coming about 2:00 AM and you grabbed your Rat and guitar and ran out the back door with your amp in the other hand? These younger ones are really missing out.
I think there was a transition through the AIDS/STDs and drunk driving issues and then ... and then along came the internet and gaming. An evolution or devolution of sorts.
I didn't take the spirit of the thread as a "what's wrong with kids today" thread, more of an observation on today's culture. Is it shifting from the behavior we displayed at that age? Good points about the crackdown on drunk driving and I'll add the push to stop underage drinking as well. Agree wholeheartedly on the points you made.
Fat City has been pretty well neutered since.
I'm gen X and we liked to interact with each other and actually DO things...unlike my son's generation
Surprised some good old boy has not said there is no drive to go to a party now all the music is CRAP
other thing I think: hearing good Fidelity mix of decent music and hook up was a reason to leave the house. Spotify and Tinder work that out for people now
Lastly: the nonsense we did would not be videoed and shown to everyone for ever. Stuff I saw would tarnish people for life nowadays
Well, it just so happens that I was in Madison 40 years ago as an undergrad and can confirm (well, to the extent I can remember!), the college party scene back then. The drinking age was 18 but, for many, the "weekend" did not begin until Thursday night. I have mixed information from my recently college graduate children about the extent of college partying, but it sounds like there still is plenty of it, just not the same as back then. I now live in Manhattan, in Kips Bay (in the 20's on the East side). Many mid 20's singles residents with their first jobs out of college, with lots of bars up and down 3rd Avenue. Plenty of noise and drinking, esp Friday and Saturday nights and into the next mornings. Otherwise a pretty low-key neighborhood for Gotham City.
Yeah. I'd be convinced that something, especially cool had to be going on that night, even if it was Wednesday. But the thing is, in New Orleans, often as not something exciting was going on. Except, people were also getting busted or getting stabbed or getting hit by a drunk in a speeding car. I kinda took that job running parking garages and lots in the French Quarter so I could see what was going on. The plan was, work enough hours and make enough money and turn the operation over to the other guys once I was too exhausted to go and blow the money someplace. Also the "Party Scene" becomes conflated with and interwoven with "Things Involving Work" and the mystery and glamorous air about it seemed to have faded some. You meet some girl who wants to stay out all night, and you're trying to get her to come home and she's not in synchronicity with you. Pretty soon a nice night's rest seems more attractive than she.
In New Orleans at least, the DWI style driving ran up and down the age spectrum and when I would be over in Traffic Court looking at DWI cases filtering through, the average age of the miscreant would be something like 37-40. Yeah, you heard me right. 37-40. Kids who were abusing alcohol used streetcars and cabs and friends. And just walked back to their dorms. Those who were still deep into Drunk Culture past the age of 35 had stopped even pretending to choose wisely. The law wasn't being enforced nearly enough and some of these people, I suspect, had been stopped 30 times before they earned their 3rd DWI and while the Country Boys would go to jail trying that, those mocking the law in New Orleans proper knew the jail cell were already filled with rapists, armed robbers and murderers and those convicts got first dibs on those jail cells - on their way eventually to Angola.
the college scene:
the young men are gaming, smoking weed, and watching porn
the young women are studying, worrying, doing things to pad their resumes, and stress eating
live music is a niche thing, not a popular thing
Still party pretty late down here. I’m done by 11:00 but crowds hands til the wee hours.
My kids don't party much either. Maybe it skips a generation - they see their parents and their parent's friends and think "what a bunch of drunken idiots, I don't want to do that".
Maybe they'll party in their 40's? Mass adult bad behavior for the win! One can hope for them
Who knows, but my evidence-free analysis is this:
- There are so many more entertainment options available today (Netflix, multiplayer video games, escape rooms, etc.)
- Young adults are statistically "poorer" than their parents were at that age
So much of what young adults are into these days is digital, so when it comes to what they want to be doing with their time, it most likely involves a screen of some kind. Whether that's watching a series on Netflix, playing a video game with friends, etc. There's not much (if any) of that available out in public. Also, with the advent of online dating and social media, kids don't feel like they need to go to a bar/club to meet someone.
Combine those things with the fact that they don't have as much disposable income as 22yr-olds used to, and you have yourself a pretty quiet party scene.
That line just yelled at me! There was nothing more sad than missing a good band (or even a bad band) with all your idiots and idols. You couldn't get that night back! I tried to capture that "desperation" in a song by the same name. Here's one verse...
Friday night in the country
And my car is all broke down.
Every thing is happening
And I gotta get to town.
Light bulb flashed above my head
And I'm out that ol' front door,
Loaded up a case a' beer
On my self propelled lawn mower.
I want to hear this sung so I can witness the inflection given to make door rhyme with mower