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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by DavidM1, Feb 4, 2020.
I have ranging from LP to SG with Strat, Tele and 339. Weight is the last thing I consider
Same here... I have light guitars, up to heavier guitars.
Variety is the spice of life.
Weight is not a joke - it's rude to laugh at mass.
Coming from playing a Gibson i was looking forward to playing a lighter guitar when I bought myself the telecaster. It feels about the same weight as the SG. Which is still fine as i play sitting down about 80% of the time.
Out of curiosity, I weighed mine tonight. 8 lbs.Looks and plays the same after weighing.
My Eternal teles in my avatar are semi-hollow and weigh5.5-6lbs each. Maple necks and no neck dive with suede straps. IMO they sustain better and resonate acoustically better than my (now all sold) Fenders. My Hahn JC is about 7.5lbs and I do notice the difference. Back and neck problems solved.
I think weight is overhyped when it comes to tone/quality of a guitar. Does it matter it all? Maybe or probably, but so does every other little thing that comprises a guitar. In my many years of playing and owning many instruments, I have come to only one absolute conclusion - everything is a crap shoot. For me, if the guitar sounds good and plays well, weight is at the bottom of the list.
In terms of weight being a comfort thing, certainly there are those who have to take that into consideration. At the other end of that spectrum though, there's some irony in people who insist on carting a 70 pound Fender Twin to get "their" tone, yet they insist the guitar must be under 7 pounds .
I'm 58. I'm 5'7" and 165 pounds. I'm not a young guy in peak physical shape and I'm not what you'd call a big dude. But I have Teles in the 8+ pound range and I'd have no problem doing a 3 hour gig with my 9.5 pound Les Paul. I guess I'm lucky.
One guy asks a rhetorical question about weight, then we get 8 pages of other guys stating their preferences and presenting their case why their guitar (heavy or light) sounds best.
Sounds about right.
I just played the lightest weight Tele I have ever come across in my life. I was at Carter’s vintage in Nashville and they had a 5 pound telecaster! Granted it cost $6000, but it was insanely lightweight.
Is weight a joke? It is to me. In 52 years of playing, I’ve never once weighed a guitar or even looked at a weight spec. It has zero influence on me. If you think you’re guitar is too heavy, you probably need a good strap.
Crikey, that would be akin to having the weight on a freeway overpass on your shoulders...
I have a Norlin-era 1980 Gibson Les Paul Artisan that holds down the scale at 13lbs 6oz... (ouch)... heaviest guitar I've ever owned or even heard of... I guess the Norlin story is... they were cheap to let the wood dry properly, which meant the moisture in the wood got sealed in when it received it's finish, or something like that... with the tar back "Series VII High Output Pickups" and that heavy body it creates almost zero treble, but tons of luscious mids and bass tones perfect for straight ahead jazz (Joe Pass, Barney Kessel, etc)... sounds like a bog box guitar when strung up with a set of .012"s
Then I have a 1995 (first year) G&L George Fullerton Signature guitar that tips the same scale at 6lbs 8oz... it has the most beautiful warm tone for a single coil guitar... the body is ash... lightest hunk of ash I've ever held... I also have a 1996 G&L George Fullerton which is a lot heavier weight wise and has a lot more treble to the same exact electronics... same tuners, electronics and bot have the G&L soft-Vee neck profile...
As with human beings, weight is a thing.
As with humans there is an ideal weight as well as body mass index.
I think it's a pretty important factor, and want to know, just like all the other specs.
I'm not too concerned about the difficulty this causes manufacturers - they've been aware of the qualities of the wood they use all along, even if we haven't been as discerning as we should be.
When you're young and strong weight might not be an issue to you.
But for us older players who have back/health issues weight becomes an issue. Especially when you consider standing up for three to four hours with a "Boat Anchor" strapped on.
There are several popular pro guitarists who have stated that they had issues with heavy guitars when playing shows.
With age comes wisdom... 'Oscar Wilde'.
I never really gave it much thought but at the moment I have a Gordon Smith I'm trying to sell and this guy has asked for the weight. So, onto the scales we go... While I was there I weighed a couple of others, and this is how they come out...
Ibanez S670QM - 6.75 lbs
Gordon Smith 1.60 - also 6.75 lbs
Fender JD / WD Music Tele partscaster - 11.25 lbs
Wow! I knew the Tele was heavy...
I think I saw above someone say he had a LP at 12 lbs, but what's your heaviest Tele? Is 11.25 normal?
Derek Trucks has thoughts on this subject in the first few minutes of the video.
For goodness sake , most of us are men and probably 180 lbs. or more. I still love the weight of a Les Paul, it doesn't move around as much as a lightweight Tele. I have differing weights such as a GFS to an Alder Tele. A Les Paul build underway. If you have a back problem I am sorry, work your set around weight etc. I play my Strat last as it's easiest to finish the night on a guitar that is so well set up and light that I know I'll get the last few numbers done easily, more for my wrist tendons than anything else.
Weight should not be an issue.. If you can't handle it, Nature is maybe telling you something. BTW the more walking and less sitting is good for the spine. I know I'll get bagged for this but as the Eagles song says " Get Over It"
P.S I have a Taylor acoustic guitar which has East Indian Rosewood back and sides, beautiful Spruce from Canada. It is , obviously super light and sounds GREAT. If we're talking tone- YES the older and lighter woods are better ( mostly) as was taught to me by guys in a lumber yard on walking to school (WALKING)where the wood was dried for 20 years or more in the open Australian climate and spaced to dry , then used. I guess I'm talking old school.
I'm sounding like an old fart here but that wood was good before real carpenters turned it into furniture. It was truly dried out.
Pine was considered trash- only suitable for wall frames in housing. Boy how things have changed.
Weight is real for me. I strip bare bones kit for a walk in the woods. I also spent a ton of $$$s on a couple of new lighter bicycles (so I could accessorize them up the weight of my old ones ). Where I hang my guitar, in terms of strap length, affects my posture. I first noticed the posture thing with issue binoculars during bridge watches...I purchased my own lighter/better binoculars and shortened the strap to place them higher on my chest---much better...later, I added an elastic strap connecting the top of the strap loop to my belt in back placing the weight on my shoulders instead of my neck---even better.