Is this just the "grumpy old man" forum now?

Jack Clayton

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I’m a baby boomer but not the type as you have described. I choose my words carefully and only comment on posts where I can provide my input without offending any person, place or thing. If I see that a thread has negativism I will try to spin as positive comment if possible. If not, then I do not post.

As I become knowledgeable of the members who post on TDPRI, I strive to understand their mannerisms in the way they express themselves and try to filter out the negativism as much as possible and go from there.

I had a coworker years ago, whom based on his emails prior to our first actual face to face meeting, I had formed an opinion that we were not going to get along. Once we met up, he turned out to be one of the nicest guys I ever worked with.

In summary, this forum needs the baby boomers who can speak from years of experience and it needs the contributions of the younger folks who are more up to date on the more recent things. You take these two groups put them together they spell a Win for all who come seeking and/or sharing knowledge related to music and other topics.
I very much agree with this sentiment. I'm on here, in large part, because of the older people who have decades more experience on the subject than me. I've gotten a lot of help on projects by asking questions here. I assume nobody wants guitar nerd culture to die with the Boomers. I feel I'm a good example of how it doesn't. I'm a milennial who comes to this forum to glean wisdom from the old guard. There are plenty of outlets online where people can whine about "kids today" and say sexually demeaning things about women young enough to be their daughters. On a forum that has rules against posting profanity and political stuff, I don't know why the rest of this is allowed to fly.
 

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In all seriousness it's something to watch out for!

Being automatically pissed off and critical about certain topics is not good for the soul. I was confessing my anger and grumpiness to an older spiritual mentor and he laughed in a manner suggesting "just wait".....!

I've noticed it in me! I used to spout off as it was funny and I could say what I thought with impudence and a smile. As I get a bit older I find just spewing venom as reactions at times.

A good buddy in his 70's and acting like me x1000! Not a happy guy at all and he used to be, at least outwardly!

I have reserved certain topics to speak my mind on but have reconsidered those.... I'm sure I'll pop in with typical old fart griping on occasion but you should see the posts I delete before I post!

I guess what I'm saying is the more we allow the world to annoy us and react in a negative manner the more we do it. Think of all those grumpy old men we knew growing up and look in the mirror! There he is!

Don't end up like old Harold Delaney!

 

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Just saw a thread asking why girls are coloring their hair a certain way, followed by FIVE PAGES of what I assume to be a bunch of grumpy, condescending baby-boomers making snarky remarks about how stupid and unemployable any girl who dies her hair an unnatural color is.

Giving the original poster the benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming he he was genuinely curious as to why younger girls are interested in this trend. Sadly, he only got comments from angry old dudes. It doesn't seem like there are a lot of women 40 and under on this thread who'd be qualified to answer. And it's not because no female milennial has ever had an interest in the electric guitar. It's because this forum is weighed down by people who post things that would make younger women feel judged and unwelcome on this forum.

Here are a few examples of comments i saw

"They dye their hair because they think it makes them stand out... Just like everybody else."

"Because they want to look unemployable."

"Blah blah blah, carpet matches the drapes, blah..."

Really? Is anyone surprised that we don't get a lot of women, or young people for that matter, on this thread? Could it be because they're instantly aware they aren't welcomed here?

This isn't the first post of this kind I've seen. Folks really like to take a break from discussing guitars to whine about something the young people are into that they don't get. You are driving the younger audience away from this forum, and insuring they won't get the help they need when they've got questions about their gear.

Yes and more yes.

"now"? :lol:

You must be new here...

And even more.

No one can hear you, the Stephenwolf is too loud

God I hate that band.

Actually, I think that chicks dying their hair a weird color looks kinda cool, as long as it ain't that short,lesbo style many are getting nowadays, or where they shave half off on one side.
'Course everything else young people do nowadays pisses me off, so I got nothing else to say...

"and the cool music will be 12 oz. hammers banging metal trash cans"

It'll STILL be a vast improvement over the crap they're spewing out today.

If we gathered up all your posts from the last couple of weeks and I had no idea your name or your location I’m guaran-damn-teeing you I could guess both...o_O...right off the bat...o_O
 

dickey

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Yes and more yes.



And even more.



God I hate that band.





If we gathered up all your posts from the last couple of weeks and I had no idea your name or your location I’m guaran-damn-teeing you I could guess both...o_O...right off the bat...o_O
Okay...meaning what?
 

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Just saw a thread asking why girls are coloring their hair a certain way, followed by FIVE PAGES of what I assume to be a bunch of grumpy, condescending baby-boomers making snarky remarks about how stupid and unemployable any girl who dies her hair an unnatural color is.

Giving the original poster the benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming he he was genuinely curious as to why younger girls are interested in this trend. Sadly, he only got comments from angry old dudes. It doesn't seem like there are a lot of women 40 and under on this thread who'd be qualified to answer. And it's not because no female milennial has ever had an interest in the electric guitar. It's because this forum is weighed down by people who post things that would make younger women feel judged and unwelcome on this forum.

Here are a few examples of comments i saw

"They dye their hair because they think it makes them stand out... Just like everybody else."

"Because they want to look unemployable."

"Blah blah blah, carpet matches the drapes, blah..."

Really? Is anyone surprised that we don't get a lot of women, or young people for that matter, on this thread? Could it be because they're instantly aware they aren't welcomed here?

This isn't the first post of this kind I've seen. Folks really like to take a break from discussing guitars to whine about something the young people are into that they don't get. You are driving the younger audience away from this forum, and insuring they won't get the help they need when they've got questions about their gear.

Let me see if I understand your post. You have come here to deride grumpy old men for being grumpy? Furthermore, you are grumping, because we do not share your particular set of values, and grumps. WE, collectively are NOT driving young people away, they can't sit still long enough to converse with a bunch of grumpy old men, and with the short hand speak they use among themselves, none of us would understand anything they had to say anyway. This particular part of the forum has evolved to just exactly what it wants to be.

Mostly:

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I very much agree with this sentiment. I'm on here, in large part, because of the older people who have decades more experience on the subject than me. I've gotten a lot of help on projects by asking questions here. I assume nobody wants guitar nerd culture to die with the Boomers. I feel I'm a good example of how it doesn't. I'm a milennial who comes to this forum to glean wisdom from the old guard. There are plenty of outlets online where people can whine about "kids today" and say sexually demeaning things about women young enough to be their daughters. On a forum that has rules against posting profanity and political stuff, I don't know why the rest of this is allowed to fly.

You have three choices, Jack.

One, quit posting on the forum altogether.
Two, quit reading the Bad Dog.
Three, start reporting and confronting inappropriate posts, when you read them.

I hope you choose two or three.

You may have noticed that in the first of two Taylor Swift threads, a member used intemperate and demeaning language about Ms Swift and was both reported and challenged about it. The second thread has been extremely complimentary about her work, as indeed were many posts in the first one.

You really shouldn't be surprised if guys in their seventies perceive public displays of individuality in negative ways. Punks and hippies took a terrible amount of abuse from strangers, in their turn- it's usually been that way and the remarks here are tame, by that standard.

Stick around and contribute to the diverse wisdom of the forum. Don't assume that all of those pejorative posts are serious, since plenty of guys come here for the humorous leisure opportunities, which include poking fun at modern orthodoxies and rules. Re-educate some of your peers, if you think it's appropriate. Quitting would seem like denying yourself access to knowledge, because some of the purveyors are a bit behind the times, socially. :)
 

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I love grumpy old men.

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I work with them, am friends with them, and from the perspective of my kids, am well on my way to becoming one.

In the meantime I try my best to stay open-minded and reasonable and avoid those who aren't.
 




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