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Is this Alder or Ash?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by drewg, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. drewg

    drewg Tele-Meister

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    I thought I could tell the difference, but I'm not sure on this one. (It's a 2012 MIM) Screen Shot 2021-01-16 at 1.51.30 PM.png Screen Shot 2021-01-16 at 1.51.49 PM.png Screen Shot 2021-01-16 at 1.52.04 PM.png Screen Shot 2021-01-16 at 1.52.24 PM.png
     
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  2. myteleplaysjazz

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    I think Alder is quite a bit heavier than Ash. If it feels un-normally heavy, I'd say its Alder. But I can't tell from the finished grain pattern. Beautiful guitar, btw. How does it sound?
     
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  3. BobbyMac

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    I think it is ash. To me, alder has a much straighter grain pattern than I see in your pictures.
     
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    Ash has more pronounced grain, so I would say ash. The back looks like it was book matched down the middle.

    I've have a faint memory of reading that there were Fenders with veneer, with the seems covered up by the darker edges of the burst finish.

    Nice looking tele!
     
  5. drewg

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    I wish I knew. It's not mine...yet. But that's a good idea. I think I'll ask the seller the weight. It is quite beautiful, isn't it?
     
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    I hadn't thought about it quite like that, but I think you're right. I was leaning toward ash, too.
     
  7. newtwanger

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    That be ash. I authoritatively confirm with no definitive proof, nor skill other than I’ve built a few dozen and that looks like 2 pc ash.
     
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    That proof-less, authoritative confirmation is good enough for me!
     
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  9. Lowerleftcoast

    Lowerleftcoast Friend of Leo's

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    Alder is about the same weight as Pine. Dry Ash is about 38 lbs per cubic foot. Dry Alder weighs about 28 lbs per cubic foot.

    The difference might be hard to tell by weight in a semi-hollow body.
     
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    +1 Looks like Ash.

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    Interesting, so ash is heavier than alder. Isn't there something about northern ash being heavier than southern 'swamp' ash?
     
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  12. Lowerleftcoast

    Lowerleftcoast Friend of Leo's

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    Yep. Dry Swamp Ash (well what is known as Swamp Ash) is a little lighter. About 30 to 34 lbs per cubic foot.

    The heavy varieties of Ash seem to be around the 42 lbs per cubic foot.
     
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  13. Pickingthru

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    Were these ash? ‘69 TELECASTER® THINLINE (1998-2014) matches the serial number.
     
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    I think it's Ash too. You don't see wavy grain like that on Alder.
     
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  15. Collin D Plonker

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    Ash, I think.
     

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    If you send your serial number to [email protected] and ask for the detail specs for your guitar, they will respond with a complete list of the detail specs for your guitar. If ash, they will tell you.

    I asked and below is what they sent me.

    Made in 2019.

    Model Name: Limited Edition Lightweight Ash American Professional Telecaster
    Model Number: 0179301767
    Series: Limited Edition
    Body: Lightweight Ash
    Neck: Maple, Mod Shop “C” to “D”
    Fingerboard: Maple, 9.5” (241 mm)
    No. of Frets: 22, Narrow Tall
    Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
    Width @ Nut: Bone, 1.685” (42.8 mm)
    Hardware: Nickel/Chrome
    Machine Heads: Fender® Standard Cast/Sealed Staggered
    Bridge: American Professional Telecaster®
    Pickguard: 3-Ply Parchment
    Pickups: V-Mod Single-Coil Telecaster® (Bridge/Neck)
    Pickup Switching: 3-Position Blade:
    Position 1. Bridge Pickup
    Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups
    Position 3. Neck Pickup
    Controls: Master Volume with Treble-Bleed, Master Tone
    Colors: Honey Blonde (767)
    Strings: Fender® USA 250L, NPS, (.009-.042 Gauges)
    Unique Features: This limited-edition model comes with a
    lightweight ash body in Honey Blonde with a
    Parchment pickguard and a special “Modern
    C-to-D” neck profile
    Source: USA
    Accessories:
    U.S. MSRP: $1,749.99
    INTRODUCED: 07/2019
    DISCONTINUED:
    DISCONTINUED COLORS:
    COMMENTS:
    WRENCH SIZES: 1/8 X 1-1/4 X 2-3/4 HEX
    HEX KEY 1/16
    Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice
     
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    Swamp Ash definitely, more pronounced grains. My alder Nashville's is less pronounced and besides the weight factor, it delivers a durable platform for the paint / lacquer. But it doesn"t have the visual character of Swamp Ash. My .02 cents worth:D
     
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    I first thought alder but after a second look I've changed my mind. I now think it's ash.
     
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    1998 James Burton Standard. Multi-piece poplar with a bookmatched ash veneer front and back.

     
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    That's a great tip– I didn't know that. Would they provide all that info for Mexican teles, too?
     
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