Is this a 1996 Japanese Strat neck?

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  1. saemola

    saemola TDPRI Member

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    I'm looking for a Strat neck and I've found one for a decent price.
    The seller says it's a '96 Japanese Stratocaster neck with the headstock sanded down cause the color was horrible. He looks like a nice, honest guy, but the heel stamp gives me pause.
    Nut is currently not attached.
    Do you think this is an original? Is it a Squire?
    It doesn't really matter to me as long as the neck is ok, but if it's not a Fender maybe I can push the price down a bit.

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    AFAIK neither Fender Japan nor Squier Japan ever had that unlined truss rod access hole.
    The liner doesn't sand off AFAIK, the construction would be when the hole gets the wood plug, and the painting could then cover it.
     
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    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Here’s a real mid 90s MIJ Strat neck that seems to have an unlined truss access because it was a Floyd equipped model.
    Skunk stripe detail also missing from the neck in question.

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    Chinese or Korean ink stamp ? it looks playable I'd say Korean
     
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    I'd walk away -- doesn't look like Fender or Squier quality -- bare, elongated truss rod hole, no skunk stripe, misplaced fret dots.
     
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    Thanks so much guys, looks like I’m gonna drop it.
    Tough to find reliable stuff.

    I have my eyes on this one now and I’m waiting for pictures of the heel, though the fact that current pics cut right before showing it makes me suspicious:
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  7. G.Rotten

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    It's neither Japanese or Fender. It would have to be pretty nice & pretty cheap for me to overlook dishonesty.
     
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    I'd pass on this one as well.
     
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  9. saemola

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    Any specific reason?
    This one I have the chance to see in person so I could actually assess the situation.
     
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    That looks like a Squier Standard Strat neck, given the plastic liner around the truss rod access, the 70s-style headstock, and the single holes level to the centre of the tuner holes. From memory, the stock tuners on a Standard have a single pin that sits in that hole rather than being screwed in place, and then the tuner bushings are tightened to stop it moving.

    I also found this on the Stratosphere; looks like the same symbols in the heel stamp as on the original neck you posted: https://stratosphereparts.com/2018-...-stratocaster-strat-neck-tuners-guitar-parts/
     
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  11. EsquireOK

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    The stamp looks wrong to me. I've never seen a MIJ Fender neck stamp with Kanji (which is what those characters would be if they were Japanese).

    The truss rod access looks wrong to me as well, and so do the tuners. Other little details are things I haven't seen before on MIJ Fenders, but then again, I haven't seen every model of MIJ Fender ever made.

    It's also highly suspicious that the headstock logo happens to have been sanded off due to a so-called "ugly color," when the rest of the neck was left finished, and doesn't appear to have an ugly yellow tint in the slightest. It would be a rare case in which a genuine fender neck has had the decal deliberately removed. Not much reason for anyone doing such; but there's plenty of reason for someone removing a non-Fender logo.
     
  12. saemola

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    Thanks for the info guys.
    Shopping for a neck is proving much more difficult than I had originally anticipated.
    Should these be Squire necks, do you have experience with them?
    I'm not a guitarist, so I really can't say, but I don't care about what's on the headstock as long as the neck works, holds its shape, frets are in good conditions, truss rod works, etc...
     
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    EsquireOK Friend of Leo's

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    FWIW, Allparts necks are a good equivalent of what went on older MIJ '50s reissues, and they're cheap and have the right headstock shape.
     
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    It's hard to say without knowing the age and model of Squier, which you can't really do if they've been sanded off. I tend to avoid buying anything guitar-related if I'm not sure of the provenance. I would say that at most you should pay about 50 euros for one in good condition if you can't be certain of what it is.
     
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  15. G.Rotten

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    This is also not likely to be a Fender neck. Possibly a Squier but most of those had 22 frets. Any time the serial number & country of origin is missing that's a red flag.

    It appears to have had 70's F style tuners and Kluson style tuners yet it has modern 10 mm holes which are in terrible shape. You could buy a Squier Standard neck any day of the week in better shape.

    This one would have to be dirt cheap to gamble on.
     
  16. G.Rotten

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    I like many Squier necks. Their quality depends on which models though & if this second neck is a Squier, the seller is hiding that & I wouldn't trust anything about it.

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    Here's a Tele I made (well, the body). It has a Squier Standard neck I love. Notice 22 frets.
     
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  17. saemola

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    Good point.
    I don't want to spend the €250-ish of a new All-Parts neck, that's why I'm looking on the used market.
    I found another Squire neck for €80.
    I might start looking for squire necks in my area so that I can look at them in person.
    Yours is looking Great on that guitar.
     
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    Neither of the above necks are Fender but I think you already figured that out ;)
     
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    That guy is super slick; sands the back of the headstock so you won't see the country of manufacture or serial number.
     
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    For the record, I ended up buying a 2010, made in Indonesia Squier Stratocaster Standard neck that I could see in person.
    Other than being in 98% new condition, I was shocked at the quality of the neck.
    Satin feel, beautiful rosewood on the fretboard seamlessly attached to a really nice maple neck with skunk stripe. Decent fretwork (I'm gonna round the edges off a bit).
    For €70, I'm seriously surprised by this neck. With better rounded frets and without the little gap that's under the nut I would have easily thought this was a neck that goes for €200 new.
    For people who are looking, I highly recommend checking this series out.
     
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