sure. there are a ton of extended techniques out there, many of which in the past have only been used for effects instead of fleshed out as compositional devices. there are a ton of compositional and signal processing techniques in synthesizer land that have never really been implemented widely in guitar playing. there are styles of music that have scarcely been brought to the guitar, and bringing them to the guitar would inherently change the music and the instrument.
if you keep looking towards established guitar-based genres, you're probably not going to find new styles of playing.
First vid is wow. What is that 7/8?
2nd one sounds killer, but I don't have that much time to devote, currently.
the super-technique of those you mentioned didn't even begin to exhaust the possibilities of guitar, IMO.
the area of guitar i really care about is not in technique, but in the instrument's evocative qualities. this has only a little to do with technique. i think of the 1st time i heard Santana's Black Magic Woman. it absolutely carried me away. it was the most exotic thing i'd ever heard and all these years later, i haven't ever come close to getting tired of it.
another example of what i see as evocative is Mick Taylor with the Stones, mainly the live bootlegs from 71-73. there is no highly evolved technique there, nothing like shred, but it just delights me to hear. much, much more than any fast shred guitar i've ever heard.
there are still many miles to go before guitar is exhausted. the way forward is in song construction, not hyper technique, in my humble opinion. putting licks on songs that excite something deep in the heart. that'll never end and guitar can do it very well.
(Professor Blunderturd's lecture concludes)
These two points. I grew up in the 90s and 00s, 80s shredding was a joke by then when compared to the blues based solos of the 60s/70s or the anti flashy playing of grunge.Guitarists remember the solo, EVERYONE remembers the song
This.With the advent of digital distribution of music and the relative demise of LPs and CDs, the popular music industry has shifted such that those who have commodified the product, to a large extent, control its content.
I heard an industry insider describe how one online music distribution company is trying to decrease singles to about 35 seconds in order to both influence the consumer to embrace shorter songs and, surprise, surprise… have a scheme where they could make more money on a “per song “ payment format. I guess they’re betting on shorter attention spans.
Until it becomes possible to wrestle the reigns of popular music away from the digital predators I suspect popular music content will suffer for all legitimate musicians.
I can recall when you could regularly hear an instrumental (no lyrics) on the radio. That seemed to die out in the 80s.
That being said, I’ve seen some GREAT young talent across the board on many instruments from all over the globe who impress the heck out of me. In fact, I think there are more technically impressive players now than ever before… I just hope they develop over time and become, for lack of a better word, more “soulful.”
I like this and as a “not so technically accomplished guitar player” who likes to write and play and sing, needed to hear it, so thanks.I think the notion of guitar "going" anywhere is flawed in the first place. Most of guitar playing is not subject to "progress", and whatever part of it is (speed, acrobatics, whatever) is beside the point. '80's shredding is seen as "beyond" simple acoustic strumming. But you know what '80's shredding is terrible for? Simple acoustic strumming. We weren't strumming cowboy chords because we were waiting for something "more" to come along. We did it because it sounded good and it was the sound we wanted to make.
Of course, '80's shredding is fine too. But there have always been fast guitarists with great technique and deep understanding of theory. And any idiot could turn their amp up till it distorted. My point being that there's more to the phenomenon than simple "progress".
Write good songs and work so that there is no barrier between what your brain imagines and what you physically accomplish. If that involves technique then great, get that, but realize it's also secondary to making music. Unless, of course, you want to be a specific type of guitar nerd, which is absolutely fine and valid. Just recognize that that's a different conversation that you're having with a different group of people. It's like fine-tuning a car to move the curve on a graph past some theoretical point vs. what makes a difference in enjoying driving the thing.
yes there is more, it has to do with working with what you have and move outside your comfort zone, to push what you have learned to the realm of creativity , if you write songs what do you hear? bass lines , melody lines , how do you hear the melody or vocals ? if all you hear is well played 20 min guitar masterbations then once you have done that then what? you cant do 30 songs with that formula.Guitars are still pieces of wood with metal and wires, distortion does the same thing that it always has, and guitar-playing skill probably peaked in the late 1980's. Is there anywhere left to go with any of this? After a few people post-EVH (Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen, etc.) nudged the goalposts a little further, nobody has really moved past that point. Distortion (ahem.... "overdrive") pedals come in all kinds of paint designs, shapes, sizes, with all kinds of cool names, but what are they doing any differently now than say, 30+ years ago?
It even became unfashionable for a while to be a good guitarist. That wore off, but I digress.
The Who did this in 1969 with the album “Tommy”. Maybe the rock opera is making a comeback?This.
I've been in a bit if an existential plight lately, because I feel like Dee Boone had a brilliant idea for 2022 back when the Minutemen made albums full of short songs designed to be heard in succession as part of a whole. That's what people have attention spans for. But most of us are used to writing 3-5 minute songs, and switching it up would be like trying to cram a novel into 2 pages.
But I completely agree with the landscape having changed. Time will tell what happens next. I forsee good music taking some effort to find for awhile longer.