Is my HWY1 tele pre- or post-upgrade??

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  1. australicaster

    australicaster TDPRI Member

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    I have a highway one tele and whether it's a pre-upgrade or post-upgrade is proving difficult to figure out. I'm not sure exactly when the upgrade took place. By my judgement it seems it's mostly likely from june/july of 2005 but there are some seemingly conflicting specs. Here are the facts:

    -The finish is satin black, and the neck pocket stamp indicates SOL-COL (solid color), but running my serial through fender tells me it's allegedly a 3-tone burst. Not sure if black was exclusive to pre or post upgrade but looking in the neck pocket and under the pickguard suggest it likely wasn't a repaint.

    -Fender's serial lookup also tells me it is a 2005-2006 and serial dating guides all list the serial as belonging to both 2005 and 2006.
    The physical date stamp inside of the neck pocket says "June 08 20-" but there is a hole drilled right where the second two year digits were. The neck heel stamp says "July 27 200-" and then a 5 and 7 stamped directly atop each other, as though one was a mistake and one is the corrected number.

    -Not exactly sure how to tell for certain if the pots are greasebucket (I think they are) but the pickups are on the hot and darker side, suggesting post upgrade. The pickguard is parchment, also backing up the post hypothesis, but the headstock font is 50s style, not 70s, suggesting the opposite.

    Could it possibly be a mish-mash of pre and post upgrade? Maybe post body and pre neck? Or just a haphazardly assembled frankenstein built during the transition period?

    If anyone knows of any telltale specs that would clear this up I'd appreciate the help.
     
  2. Slim Chance

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    Photos? They will be a big help to those who know such things.
     
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  3. john_cribbin

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    Didn't they have the Greasebucket wiring in the earlier spec?
     
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    Have you contacted Fender customer service directly or are you just using online resources? If you haven’t emailed or called them with the serial number, you should. They will give you information specifically about your guitar.
     
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    Frets.

    Medium jumbo....pre upgrade.
    Jumbo.....post upgrade.
     
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    dkmw Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Yep, if it has huge huge frets it’s post upgrade (for lack of a better term).

    I’ve got a 2007 blonde and that neck is in a closet somewhere - I put an Allparts V on mine.
     
  7. australicaster

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    A few photos:

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    Nice guitar !!! Whatever it may be ...
     
  9. australicaster

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    Thanks for the advice everybody, I’ll have to get some more precise tools to accurately measure the frets and try contacting fender directly in the meantime.
     
  10. coolidge

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    These are the Fender schematics for Hwy1 Texas models. Note that resistor (18) soldered in series with the cap to the back of the pot in the first schematic, that's indicative of the grease bucket.

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  11. zumzool

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    Preupgrade based on the logo on the neck. Post upgrade gets the thicker 70s script
     
  12. dkmw

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    Yep
     
  13. John C

    John C Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Agreed. If I'm remembering correct the upgrade was mid-year 2006 (June/July/August-ish).
     
  14. Tonetele

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    Correct.
    Also "greasebucket " circuit is post upgrade.
    I have a 2004 that I got in 2005.
    Surprisingly NO metal baseplate on the bridge pickup - I was shocked.
    Also Alnico 111 magnets , which I like but I bought another set of A 111 p/ups and put them in.
    Spaghetti Logo pre upgrade. @coolidge is dead set correct about that resistor and the pre just has that capacitor.
    Just saying what I know and believe to be true.
     
  15. Fretting out

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    What are the differences between the pre and post upgrade highway 1s?

    Fret size, wiring and logo?
     
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    Flat black was a new color in the Summer 2006 Fender price list.

    The Hwy 1 model number also changed from 11-1200/02-xxx (rosewood/maple) to 11-1260/62-xxx in that list.
    AFAIK Greasebucket was fitted to later versions of the mark 1 as there are 2 service diagram versions dated 03-03-2003 (Rev. A) without Greasebucket and 5-23-2005 (Rev. B) with Greasebucket.

    The mark 1 pickups were the same as the ones in the Classic 50s Tele according to the service diagrams.
     
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    I like that color scheme! ...I have an Esquire-H in the same maple, black, and tort! I do have my control plate rotated 180 degrees for V-T-Switch to the back.


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    Pre,the post have the 70s style logo.
     
  19. coolidge

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    Why hasn't Fender ever stamped the bottom of the pickups to make them easily ID'd?
     
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