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Is it "bad" if your saddle screws are extremely angled?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by BenTobith, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. BenTobith

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    Is this a sign of a problem with the neck angle, or anything else, or just "how it is" for some Teles?

    For example, mine look like this:
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    Wow! Those are some big saddles! Just kidding.I hope they are not that fat. Anyway, what is the deal with your neck, is i straight? what kind of bridge and saddles do you have? what kind of guitar do have? Are any screws asscue ?Have you properly set it up? So many questions to answer!.... If your neck is straight and the bridge and saddles match up to specs, you're probably going to have to shim the neck. Give us some more information so I/we can help. I had an issue like this before. Good pickin'.!
     
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    that's how it is, based on the adjustments you have on your bridge/saddles. there's a couple threads here talking about the "too long" screws that accompany some fender bridge's.

    you can cut the screws off or buy shorter ones.

    Bensonite saddles has a real nice package set, I think all are stainless, and they offer shorter screws so none are sticking up bothering you-includes worm screws for the saddles as well.

    here's the listing, look at the pics and read the description, tells you all about it. I have these and they rock!

    https://reverb.com/item/34662853-be...9.4RZZagXCi3S2O78x4_Xwv3r8624dqJhcy_UayAj54N4
     
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    I’ve never seen anything as extreme as your sketch suggests - looks as though there’s something else “off”.
     
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    Not an actual thread hijack, along the same lines...

    I'm in the gray area on my recent build where the saddles are pretty high but a thin neck shim could bring in down. Problem is it has an angled neck plate/pocket so a simple rectangular shim in the northern end of the pocket won't work, it would have to be an angled full pocket shim. Also, i don't want to take more material off the floor of the pocket because the body thickness is 1.5" with standard tele neck pocket depth so i'm already pushing my luck there. I could seek out some longer saddle set screws (3 barrel saddle) for more contact area and it prob wouldn't bug me. Pickups i'm using are from another platform and raise plenty high enough. Shim or roll with high saddles? How high is too high with barrel saddles?

    Neck pocket is pretty so i'm also hesitant to add something I'd have to blend in.

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    Most "full pocket" shims can be trimmed to fit.
     
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    Of course that would be what I would do but it would be noticeable even if trimmed smaller than the body profile.
     
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    Hi there! A shim done properly will not hurt the looks of your ax! We are talking about mm 's if even that. Just a little lift in the neck pocket closest to the neck pup?I hope you want your guitar to sound better than it looks. If your guitar needs a
    shim it needs a shim. Can't fuz about it. Keep on
    Pickin'!!
     
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    Let's see an actual picture of the bridge and saddles.
     
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    The intonation screws of the saddles on my CS were quite angled and they’re often like that IME. It can be a pain to adjust them but if you use a long screwdriver it’s fine.

    Then there are the height adjustment screws. Mine were purposefully angled (thanks to the thread being angled through the saddle), so that they do not rest on the bridge plate screws.

    I use the past because I’ve still got this guitar but decided to put a brass bridge with 6 individual saddles (for other reasons). With this bridge the saddles are not particularly high and certainly not set to an extreme.
    Proof is the architecture of my guitar was perfectly fine, but it’s just the design of the old bridge with its very thin bridge plate that leads you to set the saddles higher up.
     
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    Hey Weaz! We on the same page or what?
     
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    happy!!! Keep On Pickin '
     
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    964DE0A6-5FB6-4F3F-9637-1D2540B264E0.jpeg This is a correct saddle height with all on spec Fender parts, not much relief, lowish action, and a strong break angle.

    Note that shimming the neck in the usual deep end of the neck pocket will make the saddles even higher, not lower.
    Adding relief will lower the saddles, but we can’t do your setup from here!
     
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    Certainly. The name is Weazel, though ;-)
     
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    +1
    The chances are that if the set up was right you don’t have a problem
     
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    21439405-E22E-4BAE-B843-852F641AC36E.jpeg At the risk of causing confusion, here’s a photo looking across one of mine. Adjustment screws lie pretty flat.
    I’ve always seen this as about normal.
     
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