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intonation question

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by voodoo tele, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. voodoo tele

    voodoo tele Tele-Meister

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    Have a problem intonating low e string on my tele.get in tune,hit my harmonic on 12th fret(which I know I can't always go by)and it reads a perfect e. Fret the note at 12th fret and its 20 cents flat move down the neck closer to the nut and it gets better,by the time I get to the 1st fret it reads a f perfect pitch.have adjusted my saddle both ways several turns and it stays twenty cent flat until I move closer to first fret.don't understand what's going on here.sorry for the long post ,but I'm about ready to pull my hair out all of the other strings were fine no problem. Please help
     
  2. dsutton24

    dsutton24 Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Sounds like a bad string.
     
  3. voodoo tele

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    Thought about that but I've always had trouble intonating the low e saddle.
     
  4. Lazer

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    Could be a badly cut nut, and maybe a tad high

    Cheers
    L-zr
     
  5. Guran

    Guran Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    So the open string reads a perfect E?
     
  6. sjtalon

    sjtalon Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    > Fret the note at 12th fret <

    THEN INTONATE

    The stretch of the string down to the fret board is what one is trying to compensate for.

    A high action would really make a difference naturally in what the harmonic is vs. fretted...................flat vs. sharp.

    Is your relief set fairly flat, id est about .010 " ??
     
  7. rolloman

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    With a tuner. Not by ear.
     
  8. LutherBurger

    LutherBurger Poster Extraordinaire

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    That's weird. Does the saddle actually move when you turn the screw?
     
  9. rolloman

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    Do you re-tune the open string right after adjusting then check the 12th fret intonation. People do it different ways I know but that's the only way I can keep up with what is happening when I do an adjustment.
     
  10. voodoo tele

    voodoo tele Tele-Meister

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    I've had this guitar for fifteen years.just in the last two years,started doing my own set ups.every time I have trouble with this string.I have .010 relief and my strings are 5/64 for action no buzzing.just the low e-string won't intonate.the saddle does move when I turn the screw,and the spring is in good shape.
     
  11. dsutton24

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    Try lowering the pickups a lot and see I that changes anything. Your harmonic at the 12th fret doesn't mean anything, always intonate to fretted notes.
     
  12. rolloman

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    Let us know if you have moved it from one end of its' travel to the other. Nothing you can hurt by doing this. Also I'm sure you know this but unless you re-tune the open string right after moving the saddle then you will never get the correct pitch at the 12th fret when you check it. That is if you are trying to achieve the correct pitch and not just a pitch in relation to the open string.

    One other thing. When you move this saddle check to see if the other strings change pitch. That is a clue that something is changing or moving on the guitar that should not be doing so.
     
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  13. voodoo tele

    voodoo tele Tele-Meister

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    Thanks to everybody that helped with this problem.lowered the pickups spent some extra time with the bridge finally got it last night.that thing is a pain in the butt! Thanks again I appreciate it.
     
  14. rolloman

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    Great. Glad ya got it. Yes they can be a real pain sometimes.
     
  15. sjtalon

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    There must have been someone poking pins in one someplace.

    Happy pickin'
     
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