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Intonation on Les Paul Special

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by fakeocaster, Jul 1, 2017.

  1. fakeocaster

    fakeocaster Tele-Afflicted

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    I have a chance to check out a second hand special later this week. I'm not that familiar with LPS but from the pictures it doesn't look like you can adjust intonation at the bridge.Has anyone much experience with these?
     
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    charlie chitlin Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Acoustic players and countless players of Specials, Jrs, etc. have been getting along just fine for hundreds of years.
    Ypu can, too.
    The only one I couldn't abide was one with a wraptail compensated for a wound G, and I wanted to use a plain.
    A new bridge sorted it.
    I've had many and never felt the need for one with adjustable saddles.
    They all get close enough for me.
     
  3. jackinjax

    jackinjax Friend of Leo's

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    My brother asked me to adjust his Epiphone Les Paul Special II. It had a regular ABR-1 style bridge and a stop tail.
    Which model are you looking at?


    Edit: Oh! I see it now. Never mind. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. TimothyC

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    Intonation will only get "good enough". My junior won't intonate that great and gets more obvious the further up the neck you go. There are replacement bridge that will fix it if it bothers you too much.
     
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    There are three kind of wraparound bridges, all have a pair of screws to adjut the whole unit back and forth.

    The first style is plain, doesn't provide intonation for each string, but it works anyway (good enough)...

    The secondth has a ridge (looking like stairs or lightning), to provide a better (fixed) intonation for each string. The more vintage version is intended for wound G strings.

    The last one with a ridge too, is intended for plain G strings.
     
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    Tony Done Friend of Leo's

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    Yes, for intonation purposes, it is important to distinguish between those basic "ridged" ones that are designed for a plain 3rd and those designed for a wound 3rd. Apart from that, intonation will set pretty good using the adjsuting screws in the mounting notches. - Assuming the bridge is in the right place to begin with, and extreme tunings or string gauges aren't being used.

    This is a plain 3rd example:

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    This is for a wound 3rd:

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  7. Paul G.

    Paul G. Friend of Leo's

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    It's fine. Stop playing with screws and practice your guitar.

    3 saddle bridges, wrap-arounds that only adjust all strings at once, acoustic fixed saddles:

    All have been used to make amazing music in the hands of a real player.

    P.
     
  8. fakeocaster

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    Thanks for that....I've played acoustics and electrics of different types for years so I'm familiar with the compromises needed for intonation.I haven't had a chance to check this one yet ,so I was wondering if anyone had experience with this specific model
     
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    Intonation is for uncool souless squares .just rock ..........he he :twisted::lol:
     
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    The LP Melody Maker is a great modding platform. I replaced my damaged lightning bar bridge with an adjustable saddle vrsion that works well with this guitar.

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    I tried many replacement bridges on my humble Melody Maker as the intonation was not that good. I found it a struggle to get ones that fitted the studs, or ones where the studs fitted the stud hole threads.

    I then bought a rather expensive, machined aluminium bridge, with compensated saddles milled into it. It intonated perfectly, but the tone of the guitar just vanished. It went from being a vibrant, big sounding guitar, that actually had a very loud unplugged tone, to being lifeless and thin sounding. So I put the heavy, uncompensated Gibson bridge back on, what I did was file out the slots in the bridge ends to bring it forward by 2mm or so. Now it sounds good, and I can cope with the lack of perfect intonation.

    The bridges on these slab Gibsons are part of their tone IMO
     
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