Inspired by Gibson or inspired by Epiphone??

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by tonyj, Oct 17, 2020 at 4:04 AM.

  1. tonyj

    tonyj Tele-Afflicted

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    I am amazed by the quality of the latest Epiphone guitars that I have seen and handled of late. Well made, affordable and all round they are just oozing with quality. I have had no hesitation in buying or ordering a couple of them recently.

    If nothing else positive has happened from Gibson's recent leadership changes, then the fact that Epiphone guitars alone have seemingly risen from the ashes is great news. Shaking the shackles is paying off for them.

    Yes they are the older of the two companies, but plaudits are due to the brave souls at Epiphone for taking full advantage of the freedom of choice that they now seem to be having.

    There are now some more than inspiring guitars out there that bear the Epi name. Good job you folks!!
     
  2. boredguy6060

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    I bought a Epiphone Les Paul Plus Top Pro just because the beauty of the flame top and the quality of the overall guitar.
    It is such a bargain, another aspect that I find very appealing.
    The color is dirty lemon, which in the pictures looks very yellow. But the actual guitar a a few shades darker.
    It plays exceptionally well, also A big plus.
    This is my third Epiphone and each is flawless and reasonably priced.
     
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    Being a swing guitarist, I have a special affection for Epiphone – the old NYC company that Epi founded – and it extends to modern-day Epiphone. I have a Casino bought last year. It was good when I bought it, and a few tweaks made it great.

    If ever I buy a Les Paul, it will be an Epi.
     
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    They said last year that when asked about what else Gibson will do, Mark Agnesi said basically “Wait until you see what we have planned for Epiphone.”

    I like the changes they made to the Gibson line. When I started playing again a couple of years ago I didn’t even look at Gibsons. Now a Standard is a Standard again and it’s cool that they’re making more affordable, but quality versions of everything in the Epiphone line.
     
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    Gibson, unlike Fender, will not put their name on a non MIA guitar...
    So, to reach the lower priced market, they use Epiphone...
    It's a gateway drug ...

    They hope buyers will eventually want the real thing and cough up three grand for an LP or 335 someday ...

    Fender/Squier is the same...
    The kid who buys a Squier Affinity today may buy a $5000 Fender CS in ten years ...
     
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    This year I bought a Les Paul Special I P-90 in cherry and a Les Paul Special P-90 in TV Yellow, which I had Plektrified. I like the fit and finish on both guitars. The TV yellow is superbly playable, with every note ringing out. The pickups are pretty good, too. This is the first time I’ve bought a budget guitar and not felt the need to replace the pickups. I’m very happy with these guitars.
     
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    Exactly! what they hope will happen

    As you mentioned unlike fender Gibson doesn’t want to devalue their brand by making lower quality import models under the same name
     
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    I credit Paul Reed Smith and Carlos Santana.
    Years ago Paul and Carlos lwanted an entry level guitar that would play as well as his Maryland made gear and sound great too. The detail work to make a new guitar play and “ feel” great was well, a foreign language to the Asian manufacturers. PRS created the training and culture to accomplish t(e great work needed. Some other companies were doing this, but not to the level that Paul was. Paul wanted them to exceed his US quality and challenged them to do so. Result? it raised the quality of his Core products.
     
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    Also happy with Epiphone basses.
     
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    personally i'd rather take the middle road and buy a vintage epiphone. they can be had for less than a modern gibson if you're willing to accept something other than a casino.

    i don't mean to sound like i'm preaching, please feel free to disagree with me, but part of me feels bad. for as many young and starting guitarists that need a cheap starter guitar, 80% of cheap chinese guitars are just auxiliary toys or backups for most people, and/or are just going to end up unloved in a landfill. does the world really need anymore of that with so many decent affordable used instruments floating around? or do we really need a cheap gibson copy that we're only going to buy for novelty factor and only play once in a blue moon?
     
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    DFE6BE1C-D33F-44AF-AAAE-CBBD5B444C42.png Love my 339! A musician friend played it and admitted that his 339 Gibson is not 5x better. I did a few mods (tuners, bridge/tail) and after a pro set up, plays like a gem.
     
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    A few Gibson acoustics were made in Newfoundland, but I think that didn’t last very long.
     
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    Epiphone has improved a lot. The problems with the old discontinued models were often really just the fret work and the marketing/pricing. Now that the least expensive Epiphone is $400 not $80, buyers believe there is more quality and they may have put in full sized pots, better switches, and sealed tuners not the trapezoid ones used before.

    The Gibson line really needs to use the headstock 'technology' built into the Epiphone models for decades: Scarf joint the neck so no short fragile wood fibers, small truss rod cavity so more wood available, and a lower headstock angle. Proven on millions of Epiphones.
    But, Gibson enjoys the guitar replacement sales too much, methinks.

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    That’s something else though: “80 percent of cheap Chinese guitars”. I think modern Epiphone is showing that it wants to be a contender in the other so-called 20 percent of excellent MIC guitars. The CV is a good example of that, and those are not just toys or backups either.

    Vintage is cool, sure, but that’s also something else: I’d never buy an old guitar just because of the label—I have to actually want the model. I’m not interested in any Epi but a Casino, and if I bought a vintage guitar it’d be an old Country Gentleman :)
     
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    No, they were content to devalue their brand through years of making lower quality guitars, and charging a fortune for them under the Gibson name, and suing other companies who had the nerve to do it better.

    Kind of like what Apple was doing for a while.
     
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    Fender strings are inspired by Squier.
     
  17. Paul G.

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    The new Epiphone "Inspired by Gibson" line are excellent. Good instruments are good instruments regardless of country of origin. That being said, there are still differences between Gibson and Epiphone -- nitro finish, better materials, more handwork. That lovely flame top on your Epi is a veneer over plain maple or sycamore.

    That being said, having the option to buy a guitar that is functionally identical for less money is a very good thing. It's a matter of your personal preference and priorities. The fact that Gibson keeps he lines separate helps both.

    Remember, Gibson bought Epiphone originally to use the division to make basses, but when the guitar boom happened, Gibson couldn't expand the number of franchises -- one to a market was part of the deal -- they expanded the market by selling "Epiphones" (made on the same production lines as Gibsons) to other dealers. Essentially making a inexpensive alternative also expands the market without compromising the core business.
     
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    I have an Epi LP Std and a Wildkat, both solid guitars after tweaking to my likes...have felt no need/desire to replace pickups, and all the electronics have worked flawlessly for years. Only things that I've changed were the knobs on the LP - hate the horrible looking amber knobs the put on most their products, and swapped out the spring on the Bigsby on the Wildkat for a lighter spring....well, and I removed the pickguard and pokerchip on the LP....the honeyburst seems to be darkening with time, which is cool with me
     
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    My son swiped my Inspired By 1964 Texan. It really projects and cuts through. The figuring on the top is gorgeous.

    He took that instead of the Martin.....Really.

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    love this thing..

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