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Innovative Blues?

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  1. Mike Eskimo

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    Innovative blues ?

    To start with, anything that involves an electric guitar playing leads/solos is NOT.

    This is still more innovative than anything that’s been posted in this entire thread - and its 60+ yrs old :lol:

     
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    In theory the phrase "Innovative blues" would no longer be blues
    but fall into another category. (Jazz,Avant,alt-this,alt-that)
     
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    I think blues is already innovative. The simplicity of a 1-4-5, 8 bars or 12 is great. The innovation comes in the freedom the basic structure allows. If it changes too much, it's no longer blues IMO.
     
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    I think we've dispensed with "innovative", but if you want to mix it up a bit, why not a blues with a bridge? Unit 7:



    Beatles liked it:



    The other Beatles example is You Can't Do That.
     
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    Muddy Waters and Howlin’ Wolf are probably rarely if ever listened to by the average “blues fan”, whatever that is.

    Why ?

    No lengthy , bendy solos in their music.

    3:00 minutes and out.

    EDIT : ^^^because the average blues fan wants the solo more than anything. Not me. I love their stuff and Slim Harpo and Lazy Lester and dozens more from that era. None of which feature loooong solo jamz.

    When blues became synonymous with electric lead guitar ? It was dead.

    In this thread it just seems like everyone’s putting up their new favorite version of a screaming lead guitarist with their own bendy blues.

    Hell, as many times as I saw him in the 80s, I highly doubt I could sit through a Ronnie Earl show these days.

    That schtick is just so played out.
     
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    It's a good thing that almost none of the non-guitar playing music fans in the world have all this "inside knowledge" or the whole music industry would collapse!
     
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    There's a song in there somewhere.

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    If it has "blue" in the title, it doesn't make it the blues. I know that Miles is highly regarded as a musician, but I hope there are better examples than that one to illustrate his "blues".
     
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    "When blues became synonymous with electric lead guitar ?(Sic) It was Dead"? Respectfully, that statement seems like trolling, but nevertheless, it is ... a statement.:rolleyes:
    It will be interesting to see what @Flaneur would have to say about your view of Muddy Waters. I for one listen to Howlin' Wolf a lot.
     
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    ^^^^I love Muddy and Wolf. They had great musicians who played the song.

    No looooooong jammy, bendy solos.

    The white boys started that.

    But not all.

    Keith and Mick idolized Muddy and Wolf and 50’s blues and even when they had virtuoso Mick Taylor in their band , they kept him on a very short leash solo-wise.
     
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    Not so sure that was very innovative, but I sure enjoyed it. Thanks for posting.
     
  19. Mike Eskimo

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    All Blues speaks for itself.

    It’s in G.

    Play along with it . I have for years - it’s fun. Do it in standard or tune to open G and practice your slide.

    I’ll clarify : when Blues became synonymous with dumb songs that were just excuses for long bendy face-grimacing electric guitar solos it became dead - to me.
     
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