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Innovative Blues?

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by PastorJay, Dec 16, 2019.

  1. dented

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    Well, I listen to the blues almost all of the time and it is my number 1. I cannot begin to tell how may different genres I listen to but lately I listen to Tab Benoit and these guys....



    I will be going to a club in LA in a couple of weeks to hear Josh Smith, Kirk shows up a lot and if Joe Bonamassa is free he will roll thru. Not allowed to take photos inside but I will twist my girlfriends arm to sneak at least one.
     
  2. Fiesta Red

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    Strange, that several people have been less than complimentary to the esteemed Mr. Cray.

    A guy who has longevity.

    A guy with his own distinctive sound (both guitar and vocals).

    A guy whose song(s) subject matter goes beyond formulaic Blues topics.

    A guy who can—and does—play excellent solos, but doesn’t fall into the trap of over-playing.

    A guy who is respected by his peers—including some who have been ridiculed for their over-the-top soloing as well as those who are/were considered more tasteful.

    A guy who infused some other influences—soul and r&b—into his style, moving beyond simplistic 12-bar rhythms.

    So this guy is doing something different—and has been for decades—but people still can’t appreciate his different style...

    If you’re not crazy about his style, that’s ok, and it’s your prerogative...but at least give him credit for doing what everybody claims they want Blues Players to do—something “different.”
     
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    Jim622 Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I wouldn't say Jimmie Herring is blues, but when he plays them he brings it way beyond a 12 bar blues
     
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    This was innovative blues in its day...

     
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    Blues is magical it's beyond innovative if you think about it. It doesn't follow the "rules" of harmonization.
     
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    And before that, the St. Louis Blues for the true Hepcats. Check out the rhythm guitar player going way up the neck in reverse!

     
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    Yeah, with ROB, specifically Duke Robillard.



    No one has mentioned the many Jazz-Blues guys like Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, Wes Montgomery, etc. And Jimi Hendrix was serious Blues.
     
  9. PastorJay

    PastorJay Friend of Leo's

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    Love the responses. Great examples of people who are going outside in one way or another, while holding on to the tradition.

    We don't all agree. What some of us think is not blues others think is innovative blues. Or what some of us think is boring others think is creative. And that's okay.

    I posted elsewhere that my cup of tea is your glass of dishwater. Except that I don't like tea.

    So maybe my glass of bourbon is your cup of tea.

    Thanks again.

    Peace.
     
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    Charles Mingus -- Blues and Roots
    Jeffrey Lee Pierce - Ramblin' Jeffrey Lee & Cypress Grove with Willie Love
    Chris Whitley -- Dirt Floor

    Pretty much anything by JB Lenoir, Magic Sam, Lonnie Johnson, and Ry Cooder.
     
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    That talk box sounds a lot like a vocoder.

    Also that puppet was like a prototype for the California Raisins.
     
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    The thing that is what appeals to me about the blues is the innovation. Like in an almost a strict 12 bar format Mike Bloomfield went beyond what was being done at the time. When playing the blues you are your own limit. When a bass player says he gets board playing blues, its because he isn't thinking how to be innovated with it.
     
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    I think Chris Ingram exhibits mastery of the genre and his instrument which is unusual at 20 years of age. It makes me want to see where he's going next. So I guess I'm waiting for him to be innovative.

    ;)

     
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    And in context Lonnie Johnson was innovative yet relatively unrecognized. He was tagged as a blues artist after winning a contest with a recording contract as the prize-a title he was never quite able to shake off. But one can hear his many influences when he stretches out.

     
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    Ana Popavich, is not innovative, she's just loud.
     
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    I think I got this thread mixed up with the other recent blues thread.
    Where is blues now and where is innovative blues.
    Forgot to add the newer ladies of Blues (Popovick, Fish, Wonderland, Davies)
    One of my old bands I was in opened for Debbie Davies. She rocked.
     
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    I thought that Jack White put a new slant on the genre - 'punk blues' if you like. Give me raw over slick any day.

     
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    I like Jack.
     
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    I'm thinking this thread has shifted from "innovative blues" to "blues I like".
     
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