Inefficient 10" speaker recommendation for vintage Princeton Reverb

[hakuna]

Jensen P10r-FEN

 

[2L man]

P10R-Fen sound sweet. P10R RI sound sweet too but has more edge. Their low sensitivity has significant effect to tube distortion but that can be a hindrange when only one can't match loud drummer when their useful max amp power is somewhere 10...12W depending its distortion.

In Youtube there are many good P10R reviews and comparisons but only two -Fen reviews.

10" Tornado 100 is great speaker for Fenders thru all volumes but its higher sensitivity lessen amp distortion for quiet playing. Compression and shimmering 3D sound is close to Alnocos.

 

[Dukex]

I had a vet 10 in my SFPR. It was…OK. It was a bit “muffled”, accentuated the mids too much for me, and just lost the “sparkle” of the PR. As soon as I swapped it out for a C10R reissue the “muffle” was gone and the sparkle returned. The C10R is less efficient as well.

Yeah, I guess it's a matter of taste. The guys at Fenderguru.com seem to like them a lot. I have a WGS G12C/s in my VSA Vintage 15 that is sweet and loud.

 

[drmordo]

I had Eminence make a 10” Cannibus Rex with the dial on the back to reduce the sensitivity of the speaker. Works great and you still have the ability to dial it up.
Paul

Wow, I had no idea this was possible!

EDIT: Wait, yes I did! Eminence sells L-Pads. I have used those on my home stereo speakers, I have no idea why it never occurred to me to use one on an amp.

 

[fretknot]

Another fan of the P10R, or a well broken-in Celestion Ten 30. I know the Celestion gets a bad rap from some users, but my experience with them is they are great once they loosen up. It would fit the bill for what the OP is looking for at half the cost of the Jensen.

 

[ritten70]

Wow, I had no idea this was possible!

EDIT: Wait, yes I did! Eminence sells L-Pads. I have used those on my home stereo speakers, I have no idea why it never occurred to me to use one on an amp.

Yeah, I didn’t know they would make different speakers with it either. I actually called them up looking for a low volume speaker when I was told they could make any of their speakers with a 1” voice coil with the doohickey. I ended up with a 12” Private Jack in 8 ohm and the 10” Cannibus Rex in 4 ohm.
I have no idea why this system isn’t more popular.
Paul

 

[slider313]

The Jensen Jet Falcon 10 is a good choice. It's spl is 95 db.

 

[Hoodster]

Emi alnico 1028 is my favorite for your application, and I’ve tried tons.

 

[Intubator]

I'm intrigued by this one and may get it for a Princeton Reverb I'm planning on building.

Weber CTC10 25W.
Per Weber:
"Same cone, coil, and other parts as the ceramic CTS 10″ used in Super Reverbs and other amps in the mid 60’s and later.
10″, 20oz ceramic magnet, 8 ohms, 25 watts, 1-1/2″ voice coil with paper former and softened, aged, seamed cone. Light Dope standard
Brighter, with a little punch and a smooth distortion tone. The lower sensitivity of this speaker allows more overdrive and distortion from the amp at lower volumes. The breakup is later and relatively smooth. The paper voice coil is only available in 8 ohms."

CTC10 – Weber Speakers

www.tedweber.com

 

[ruger9]

Another vote for the 10" Greenback; not only is it quieter, IMO it sounds fantastic in this amp.

 

[Stencil]

Yes indeed, I concur. I have several cabs & combos loaded with 10" Greenbacks in my ridiculously small project studio/rehearsal space, acting as natural attenuators, for anything with tubes, including Fender, Marshall, Zinky and Dumble clones..​

Though they are about 3 dB weaker than their 12" siblings, they pack a very satisfying low-end oommph. All those that I have purchased in the last few years were "Made in England" and their pricing was reasonable (currently about €110 on this side of the channel.)​

Cheers,​

Dominique​

 

[printer2]

I have a 10" field coil speaker. I am going to make a power supply for the field winding with a VVR (variable voltage regulator) and turn it up and down according to taste. One little concern is that many FC speakers out of radios have low impedance. Something to keep in mind.

 

[VintageSG]

The single best 1x10" I've ever owned was fitted with a Jensen MOD 10-35 8 Ohm.
They're around 94dB, so not that efficient. Not very bassy, which leads to great clarity in a band mix, and about as ice-picky as a mouldy strawberry.

I have a pair of 1x10" cabs with the MOD 10-50 in. Very nice overall balance. 95dB in 4+8 Ohm, 94dB at 16 Ohm. They sound good at all volumes.

My Cub 10 has a MOD 10-70 in it. Too bassy for me, plus it lacks clarity at low volumes. Get the valves working, get the volume up to band levels and the balance is restored. At home noodle levels, it lacks the clarity of the lower power variants.

My LC15 has the much maligned Celestion TEN-30 in it. Not nice when new. Poor balance, muddy at times, shrill at others. This is why so many get listed as pulls from nearly new amps.
Play loud through it for a few hours and it changes character. The bass gains clarity, the zizz leaves and there's no more shrill. Possible low cost alternative.

/swerve

If you are making a new baffle, could you fit a pair of 8" in there? Magic happens with pairs.

 

[Maguchi]

Eminence GA10-SC64. It's "da kine."

 

[darkwaters]

I’m big fan of an alnico in a PR for those old school tones. My choice would be an Eminence 1028K.

 

[Dacious]

Eminence GA10-SC64. It's "da kine."

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These aren't inefficient. They're 98db, second only to Emi Legend ceramics.

 

[radiocaster]

Wow, I had no idea this was possible!

EDIT: Wait, yes I did! Eminence sells L-Pads. I have used those on my home stereo speakers, I have no idea why it never occurred to me to use one on an amp.

There were some Eminence speakers with something like that built into the back of the speaker, but are no longer made.

However, they were not "Cannibus Rex", "Caninebus Rex", 'Cannibal Rex", or any similar name.

 

[Alex_C]

The Jensen Mod 10-35 is a great speaker, very underrated and quite inefficient (~94db). I just installed both a Jensen Mon 10-35 and 12-35 in a cabinet. Love the sound and the total cost for both was less than $140. As an added bonus they are light weight.

10-35 Specs: https://www.jensentone.com/specification-sheet/23

 

[58Bassman]

Just picked up a vintage princeton reverb with a 12" in it. It's too loud for my purposes. I'd like to put in a "not loud" 10" for lower volume gigs and home use. I don't want to lose all clarity but grittier sounds are often what I like.

I already have a princeton reverb with a 12" so 12" recommendations are not needed.

New production or vintage speaker recommendations appreciated.

Thank you.

I have been using a '58 Bassman for over 40 years and at home, it's far more than I could ever need as far as output and I have also used a Boss SD-1 for almost as many years. The level control lets me decrease the output and adjusting the amp's volume control lets me reach the maximum level I need by setting the clean level a bit lower than full turn on the guitar's volume control. Most of the time I would set the guitar's VC to about 6 and only raise it if I wanted some crunch or volume AND crunch.

 

[58Bassman]

Decibels and the perceived volume are different things and often greatly influenced by the presence of the highs.

I had an old carpet cleaning truck that used a large exhaust silencer to keep the blower noise at 98 db. It sounded pretty quiet, like a windy day. When the silencer rotted out, we replaced it with a massive truck muffler since we couldn't wait for a new one to arrive. It also emitted 98 decibels yet we received noise complaints from a block away because it had a lot more high end noise to it.

I didn't find that 10c/s to be loud, it was clean, but offered a lower perceived volume than that Jensen RI.

That vacuum silencer used to be sold at Home Depot.