Incoming: '64 RI Bound for Projects

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  1. EsquireOK

    EsquireOK Friend of Leo's

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    Just snagged this beauty of a 2016 AV '64 RI for a good price. Seems pretty darned sweet and complete. I'm hoping there are no surprises when it shows up.

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    Its body will be stamped and oversprayed in ReRanch Dakota Red sans clear coat, to simulate a Fender factory refin. Then everything from my Page Mirror Tele will go on to the '64 RI body to make it a complete guitar again. Then all the '64's bits will go on to the stock Page body to make it a complete '64 RI again.

    Takes care of my biggest nit picks about the Page: its poly-sealed finish, which is ultra white (both things are period incorrect), while also giving me a more vintage-accurate '64 (poly sealer simulating the Fullerplast that would have been used in '64, and a whiter blonde like the '60s Teles had vs. '50s ones). The two different sealer types result in very different styles of break-in/wear way down the road. Yeah, nerd stuff, I know...

    In the end, I'll have a unique red Page Mirror Tele, plus a uniquely "more accurate" '64 RI.

    The Page can easily go back to stock if needed...but I don't plan on selling anyhow. I didn't buy it for the Page connection. I've just wanted a very accurate repro of a '59/'60 style top-and-rear loader Tele for a long time, and it got me within striking distance of what I had in mind (the signature decal will have to just be overlooked).

    Meanwhile, the red Page will be getting a case swap with my AV '58. The Page will get the '58's brown case, and the '58 will get the Page's lacquered tweed case – also more vintage accurate on both counts. Then I will track down a black case for the '64, and just have an extra brown one lying around (not a problem).
     
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  2. Southpole

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    That’s quite a complex upgrade plan! I’d be very tempted to use that 64 as it is.
     
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  3. EsquireOK

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    Not too complex. It's just a body swap with an overspray on one of the bodies.

    I will be doing the simple body swap first, and saving the refin for later.
     
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  4. rze99

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    Nice buy. Hope your plan works out and delivers for you.
     
  5. mimmo

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    Very nice 64, just like mine!
    And cool project indeed.
     
  6. AxemanVR

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    Right?



     
  7. AlbertaGriff

    AlbertaGriff Tele-Holic

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    I'd probably just keep the AV 64 and sell the JP Tele, but I'm biased.
     
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  8. Texicaster

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    Yea I think I'd keep that '64 as-is.....

    And buy another one to complete your plan!

    :D

    TEX
     
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  9. Sax-son

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    Take it from me, don't repaint that guitar. If you are looking for a color change, buy a pre painted body from Warmoth. Keep the original "original". You may want to resell it down the road. I have learned the hard way about modifying factory spec Fender gear. Keep it as original as you can. Otherwise, you will destroy the value of it. Those AV Fenders are going to be the next collectables, I just know it.
     
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    Your move, but I would keep it stock. However, I wish you luck with the project, and look forward to seeing the results.
     
  11. EsquireOK

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    Thanks, fellers (and maybe gals).

    I am not going to keep the '64 body stock; I only got it to realize this plan. I don't really want two nearly identical looking blonde/rosewood Teles. I would, however, really love a well built, very vintage-accurate Dakota Red '59/'60 style Tele, and a very vintage-accurate blonde mid-'60s style. Styles I love, but I'll likely never be able to afford the real deal (plus I like the brand new look).

    Also, remember that in the end the '64 style one will look stock to the casual observer (only it will be more vintage-accurate than stock in terms of finish appearance and composition).

    As for re-painting affecting value, I don't buy to resell. And we're talking about a guitar that I got for below market value, and which would be dinged a few hundred bucks, if anything, by a quality overspray in a unique color for the model. If anything will ever get sold, it will be the Page, which will be put back to stock if that happens. Then I'll be left with a Dakota Red '64 RI with all its original parts.

    My only concern is whether or not there are any undisclosed problems. Always the case when mail ordering a guitar. It looks super clean and complete, and the price was right, which of course raises doubts until its in my hands.
     
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  12. hockey guy

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    I have a 64 AMRI Telecaster. Great guitar. IMHO I would leave it stock.
     
  13. Blue4Now

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    Was the the one for sale at TGP? If so that was a great deal
     
  14. EsquireOK

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    Maybe, but I don't visit that site. I found it on Reverb dot com for $1,250 including tax and shipping (it was $1,345 asking price – already quite fair, but he accepted my offer anyhow, and I'm not complaining). Ever since getting the Page and hatching this plan, I've been stalking AV '64s, so I was ready to pounce when the right one popped up. This is both the cleanest and the cheapest one I'd seen, so I jumped.

    Again, it'll look almost the same in the end, with the stock Page body in the original body's place. It'll actually look closer to an original '64 when the '64 was brand new. The poly undercoat prevents sunken grain lines, the paint is whiter, and it doesn't have the blonde burst. Much more '60s looking than the stock bodies on AV '64s, which were more '50s style in terms of paint process (sunken grain lines, yellowed more quickly, more of a blonde burst, etc.). Both guitars will end up as more accurate reissues in the end, and the Page will always be able to be taken back to stock.
     
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  15. Lefty Addams

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    I (personally) wouldn't touch that, its lovely as is. Great look to it.
     
  16. FredDairy

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    Sell the Page and just play the 64ri as is.
     
  17. Blue4Now

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    That was the one ! Killer deal


     
  18. NothingGoatboat

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    Sounds cool. Go ahead and spray that thing if you dont care about resale. Dont listen to the naysayers. Dakota red is gonna look great!
     
  19. Southpole

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    Gonna try and get a small bit of AV64 mojo with these. Not easy to get anymore.

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  20. Ess Eff

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    You paid HOW MUCH for the Page Tele!

    ... and now you are going to butcher 2 guitars to create some Frankenstein?

    Well I guess each to their own.
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