In today's world, what's a realistic value on a '62/‘63

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  1. rober

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    image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg I hope the preverbial 'what's it worth' post is ok.
    I came across this guitar and was wondering on a realistic 'today's' value.
    All original '62/‘63 in original case.
    The body is 11/62 and the neck is 08/63, I spoke with Fender’s custom shop and was told this was common practice.

    I have an item for sale and the potential buyer has offered up this guitar as partial payment, just trying to get a realistic price.

    Let me know your thoughts,
    Thanks,
     
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    pretty clean, considering, but I have no idea, esp since the flood of re-issues and well-done fakes

    Peace - Deeve
     
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    the wear on the body doesn't look right to me. can you take the neck off?
     
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    If it’s really all original, I would say around 25,000 $
     
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    I'll take a WAG. If that's for real a January 2020 price might be $30k.

    No tellin' what an April 2020 price is, realistically.

    The white looks awfully bright. I'd want to take the neck off and look under the pickguard before I took out a personal loan to buy that one.
     
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    A little more info;
    The necks been off, 08/63. The guitar has also been certified by a highly reputable dealer in writing.
    I have no doubt it is what it is.
    Concerning the paint/body, the missing paint isn’t wear per se, it was caused by tape. The body had a cover on it that was attached with tape. The missing paint is more of a reaction between the tape and paint and time. (in the first side-shot you can really see the tape line)
     
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    It’s the perfect vintage veneer board Strat IMO. It’s absolutely beautiful, a custom color, and relatively clean, but not so clean it would be a shame to play it regularly, including gigging it.

    It’s highly desirable. Not by hardcore collectors, but by amateur collectors and working players.

    It is a veneer board, but the clean original custom color makes up for that in terms of value. If I had 20 to 30 K to blow on a guitar (meaning if I was a full time gigging and recording musician), I’d do it on that. In the world of veneer board Strats, it doesn’t get much better to me than a clean, all original, but still player grade, Olympic White ‘62.

    Those saying that it’s not yellow enough, you are correct. The body is too neutral and the guard is too green (real green guards are more yellow than green). However, that’s only because the color balance of the photos is too blue. Balance the photos so the concrete looks neutral gray, and you’ll see the true colors on the guitar.
     
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    F0BB4F86-B786-4FBF-84E3-8AF3FCC81E5E.jpeg Here’s the cover that was on it. It definitely protected the back and sides from wear, just a shame what happened to the paint because of it.
     
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    Yup. Those covers often did more harm than good. That said, the damage is almost entirely on the sides, and visible mainly to the player. I’d take it over a refin any day.
     
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    I added a little more info to the original post by edits.
    The pick guard has no cracks, neck and frets in really nice shape.
    Has the original whammy bar and bridge cover also.
    It appears to have had a pretty easy life, save for the paint on the edges from the cover’s tape.
    Overall, not many bumps and bruises to speak of, mostly the paint on the edges.
     
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    Drool.
     
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    0A37263E-963D-49EF-9383-465A9B8FBF87.jpeg Frets & board in nice shape,
     
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    I'm no expert but wear from tape is still good wear, the owner decided to use it in his/her own fashion and it got the wear it got. It still good honest wear
     
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    so that’s about all the info I have.

    Just looking for a realistic value if I took it in trade & and wanted to sell it.

    I appreciate everyone’s thoughts so far.

    R
     
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    Somewhere in the neighborhood of $25k would be my guess if it is all original.
     
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    I would want to take a really hard look at this one regardless of some earlier assessment by someone else.....who got paid and was not putting tens of thousands of dollars into the deal. One thing in this picture caught my eye. Take a look around the edges of the neck pocket in the pic in post #13. There is missing or dented wood that is the same finish as the rest of the white. I think that there is a possibility that this white finish is not original
     
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    I'm wondering what the heck it is you have up for sale when this would be a 'partial payment'!? :eek:
     
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    You'd wanna see neck pocket and under the pickguard. It could have been painted on the lazy Susan or using paint stick.

    If that guitar spent most of its life in the case with the guard stuck on it the wear in plausible. But acrylic while staying whiter than nitro still yellows. And it's duller.

    It was common for custom colour orders to be done over bad sunbursts and in 61-62 for them not to get nitro clear. Oly White was custom.

    If it's a refin it materially affects value, to the tune of thousands so it's no small point.

    Other than that everything looks good. Of course interesting to see the wiring.

    This is factory Olympic White over sunburst acrylic lacquer no clear. images (17).jpeg
     
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