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In praise of vintage style tuners

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by naveed211, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. nashvillebill

    nashvillebill TDPRI Member

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    About the first thing I do when I buy a new electric, is put locking tuners on it.
     
  2. Haolemon

    Haolemon NEW MEMBER!

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    I recently had my Tele tuners replaced with the new Kluson locking tuners. They work great and look original from the front. If you hate changing strings, the locking tuner are a no brained. You can change strings in 1/4 the time as regular tuners.
     
  3. Moonrider

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    They're second best. I love the vintage style, but locking tuners are the shizzle!
     
  4. Jay Jernigan

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    Saf-t-keys are the original locking tuners. Light weight (they're hollow), simple design (less to tear up), clean look, no string ends to bloody your fingers on, work great.
    I definitely see the attraction of the thumbwheel varieties. Never had any. Used almost everything else, at one time or another, never had any real tuning issues with any of them, just prefer the vintage to all of them. Needle nose pliers required.
     
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    Right. Fender classic gear tuners! Vintage style split shafts and no screws on the back of the neck.
     
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    Yes - "Vintage" is the only way to go. Question though: Do I see only "one" wind or "turn" of each string on each post in your picture? If so, do you stay in tune pretty well? I always have 2-3 full turns of each string on each post to ensure no slippage and going out of tune. I cut each string at the 3rd post beyond the one I am changing. With the ~1/2" or so down into the post, that gives me enough for 2-3 full turns (2 on the low E, A, and D, and 3 for the G, B, and high E. On occasion I might go 3 turns on my D-string. I am interested if I am seeing your photo correctly, and how often you have to tune? Thanks
     
  7. FraKo

    FraKo Tele-Afflicted

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    I recently entered the vintage tuners Heaven. After so many decades, I bought a guitar (I must confess, a Strat...) with klusonesq IMG-20200827-WA0027.jpeg ue tuners. I love the aesthetics, and they're so easy to deal with...
     
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  8. aFewGoodTaters

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    Maybe it's superficial...but having vintage tuners on a Fender is a make or break deal for me when considering a purchase. I typically won't even consider a Fender that has modern tuners. Maybe I'm missing out on some killer guitars...but I don't care. LOVE vintage tuners on a Fender from both a functionality and aesthetic standpoint.
     
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    Amen to that. Vintage split tuners all day.
     
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  10. Moonrider

    Moonrider Tele-Meister

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    It's not about tuning issues, it's about ease of use. I've never had tuning issues from any tuner. I like the locking tuners because I can literally do a complete string change in less than 10 minutes, including the time taken to tune and stretch them a bit. Vintage styles are almost as fast, but take a bit more work to use.
     
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  11. naveed211

    naveed211 Tele-Afflicted

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    Nope, each string has at least three winds on them. Honestly with other guitars I’ve done as little as one wind and tuning has been fine. I don’t doubt it plays a factor. But yeah, aside from what it may appear in the picture, all have at least three winds.
     
  12. mmannaxx

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    Only vintage style tuners for me on Fender guitars. I’ve had a guitar or two with lockers but didn’t care for them.
     
  13. azureglo

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    Tuning stability isn't the reason for using locking tuners: It's quicker string changing, insert string, lock, snip end off then tune. No windings , up and under/over/alternate dimension threading etc. Most of the session and gigging pros I know use them for this reason. When I worked as studio session player, they were invaluable as I'd be changing strings on multiple guitars weekly at least.

    The guff about improving tuning stability is some marketing geeks afterthought, as its simpler string changing these are bought for, at least by working musicians. I geek around with bridges etc as well so its way easier re-use newish strings that haven't got spiraled ends. That said, its a few minutes more using non lockers so each to their own, hell there's even a brand that has built in string cutters.




    Lockers? I love 'em but YMMV.

    Now back to the thread, picked up these wonderfully cheap Guyker vintage style lockers for £25 courtesy of Amazon as drop in, no drill replacements for the factory Gotoh vintage split posts on my Japanese Tokai Breezysound TTE-50. Despite some horror story reviews, work as well as the Gotohs, dropped straight in and look pretty vintage to me in nickel plate apparently



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    Here is the way,
     
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    Actually this is the way...
     
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    Yeah they're the best. Somethings things are nailed first shot. Anyone having tuning issues with them needs to learn how to string a guitar.
     
  17. driver8

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    Love the simplicity of vintage, makes changing strings a breeze compared to hole tuners. Never had locking tuners, but all that extra hardware turns me off to them, tbh.
     
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    Love vintage lightweight tuners;)
     
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    Vintage are crude rubbish compared to locking tuners.
     
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    wooohoooo! shout out to another wisconsinite.

    Nice job on the tuners. Looks good. I've never had vintage tuners before. Maybe some day. Some of the guys on Andertons when I was watching vids a lot said they liked the vintage the best too.

    For some reason I'm not picky about doing strings. I guess I kind of like working with my hands. One thing I don't do is use when of those winding tools. To me it feels awkward.
     
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