I'm moving, out by Mon, had intruder come close to,,,

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by ASATKat, Sep 14, 2019.

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  1. thunderbyrd

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    it's not worth his while to get into a confrontation with you, he wont come back because you stood your ground and if he saw weakness he would have started something but he didn't. you have nothing to fear man, and i am so glad you are getting out of there! but if you are worried at all get a hammer next to you at night and have a stiff drink you need it. well done!
     
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  4. Larry F

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    Coming from Chicago, I'd day that you handled the verbiage pretty well. As you said, you have to put up a front. Kind of like when a cat turns sideways and arches their back. Best done with words, rather than posture or implements.
     
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    Not sure where you live. I’m on the East Side of Baltimore. I’ve got some great neighbors ..... and some knuckle heads and riff raff. First few times we “great neighbors” called the cops and showed unity the knuckle heads and riff raff stayed away from us and practice their unsavory craft farther away from home. My wife and daughters all can shoot and protect themselves and I have my conceal carry since I am a business owner.
    I’m sorry you must move, but sportier there were not more Good people around to keep the neighborhood safe
     
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    Where you lost me is when you said that you would never own a gun...right after illustrating the need AND even using it as a threat. The fact that you threatened him by showing the pepper spray just means that you don't carry a gun so the pepper spray is all that he would have to worry about. To be honest, pepper sprays are a terrible self-defense item as they normally effect the user as much as the recipient, much better off with a taser if you don't want to carry (and train) a firearm.

    It might have chased the guy off, but the statement that you are now in the apartment feeling a little scared means that you have a problem. I believe in trusting my instincts, if you feel scared, then there is likely a reason to be. Since it is just a couple of nights, I would suggest staying with friends or just getting a hotel room and remove yourself from the situation completely.......or buy a firearm. Not a stupid pistol either, but a shotgun.

    I worked as a prison guard for 12 years and I can tell you that chambering a shotgun scares criminals more than any other weapon because it doesn't require skill to hit the target. When I worked the towers, I would walk the walls with the shotgun instead of the rifle even though I was too far away to really hit anyone with it. I have chamberd that shotgun to break up fights on the yard where the rifle would have been ignored. They are cheap, easy to use when scared, and damn effective.
     
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    One good whack with the ASAT will suffice.
     
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    Lol, this is the only house on this block. Across the street is the huge new billion dollar casino. Neighbors are a couple fields away.

    It's actually the most booming area in Sonoma now. My place will be torn down and they'll put up a parking lot.
     
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    I'd rather show the cops his picture than wave a gun around. Get a good sensor light and few a cams. The cam will send you a text when it gets triggered so you can see what the cam sees and call the cops remotely, if necessary. Stay safe. You have to be really stupid to break into somebody's property these days. Cameras are everywhere. I use mine to let me know when my neighbor comes home so I can go amplifier-less. I also use it to keep my landlord from coming into my place when I'm not there.
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    The very best fights are those you avoid entirely. Hard to do if you are attacked in your home, I know.

    Pepper spray is easily negated if it is expected. He could bring helpers and/or weapons, also if he is really motivated.

    Hopefully, he will just move on to an easier target.

    Your very best tactic would be to move out early.
     
  11. ASATKat

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    Oh man, that thought never entered my mind. Must cleanse, I need some sage.

    The ASAT IS a pretty heavy chunk of swamp ash fwiw.
     
  12. RoscoeElegante

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    Next place you live, OP, get a big, loud dog. Since you have cats, a big, loud dog that likes cats would be a plus.

    Best yet: once you're in a safer place, get a pup who'll grow to be a big, loud dog. He'll like the cats if he's raised with them. You can train him to react to types and degrees of menace/threat with the level of loud protectiveness you see fit. Great for when you're not home, sleeping, etc.

    In the meantime, I second the stay-at-a-friend's-place/get-a-hotel-room suggestions. Not worth the risk if you can secure your valuables in meantime.

    If you get stuck in a similarly gnarly 'hood again, dog + gun may be needed for peace of mind. Home invasion, burglary while you're home, etc., are rare things. But I've had one home intruder, and five other attempts made on my homes, in my 57 years in (mainly) five homes in two cities and two towns. I was lucky each time--and the dogs helped. But you don't want to rig the odds in bad guys' favor. If we didn't have so effective a big, loud dog, I'd definitely have a gun.
     
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    Problem with pepper spray is its indescrimint in who it harms... meaning you will likely suffer along with the attacker, even if slightly less, not something I would want.

    But I wouldn't worry much, once you stand up to someone they usually either stay away or they are gonna get you.

    And on the "get you" part, theirs no question that when someone truly wants to do harm to somone, they are going to do so, one way or another.

    Either call the police and tell them you have a stalker, and you'd like someone to watch your place for the next 2 days until you move, or just "rough it" the next few nights.

    Heck If you are that afraid, get hotel for the next 2 days.

    But I personally would be flat out damned if I let 1 man run me out of my own residence.... no way, no how.

    Bear spray, and a Louisville slugger, or 9 iron will perform a very nice "tune-up" on any would be attacker.

    Best of luck and stay safe.
     
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    Hopefully I'm here tomorrow to continue my message.

    Actually, I am pretty scared tonight.
     
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    Move, move, move, move now!
     
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    I have 50,000,000scu spray. 50,000,000scu will go through clothes and forget it on your face,, the burn would be overwhelming.

    The Carolina Reaper is like the hottest pepper and they are only 2,500,000scu. 50,000,000 should stop a bear or at least hurt enough to get the "blank" out of there.

    2,500,000scu
     
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    With respect, I'm very glad he decided to moved on for your sake. I don't subscribe to have having to think like they do. If someone had walked into my house with my family there and was walking away, I would have gotten his attention by cycling my Mossberg in the doorway of my house. No words needed. At that point he's obligated to think my way. He wouldn't say S@#+ back and he would move along without mouthing off and threatening to return. I am very glad it worked out for you but I agree with others about getting out of there. When he returns as promised he will have help with him. He was casing. They wont care about how peaceful and thoughtful you are to actual humans. Scumbags like this only care about what they can do once they are in your house. Still, call the police and report it so there is a record. Unlawful entry is super serious stuff in my neck of the woods, I'm sure it is there too and they would be looking for this guy to act.
    Best of luck to you and your family!!
     
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    I suspect that you won't see him again. If he's just a thief, then he's an opportunist and looking for the path of least resistance. Could you get any sense of how old he was?
     
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    And it will probably stay in tune too. While the perp is asleep, tie him up with a couple of guitar cords. Take his picture, and post it here on TDPri, and then call the police. That will teach him to mess with a guitar player.
     
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    One doesn't advertise the way one plans to fight. The sound of a shotgun being cocked will make an intruder likely change his mind about continuing his plans. If the intruder continues to enter, he should be stopped with the neccessary means. "I have pepper spray, and I will use it" won't keep the guy out. Move ASAP, but in the meantime, apparently it's you vs. the intruder. This is not a game.
     
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