If I like Television (the band) but don't like Joy Division,

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^One of my all-time favourite albums^ When I first heard this song...



...It galvanised me. Frankly, it was the finest thing I'd ever heard at the time.

The Buzzcocks, Stiff Little Fingers and Killing Joke are worth a listen to too.
 

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It absolutely is not
I own the NO US radio promotional record. But there’s a lot of room between Passover and Blue Monday. I’m just saying it’s inappropriate to not like Joy Division.
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I own the NO US radio promotional record. But there’s a lot of room between Passover and Blue Monday. I’m just saying it’s inappropriate to not like Joy Division.
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:) Ian died when I was nine, so I backed into Joy Division after Blue Monday got hot in the mid 80s. You can hear it here and there (Peter Hook duh), but they are very different bands for sure.
 

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:) Ian died when I was nine, so I backed into Joy Division after Blue Monday got hot in the mid 80s. You can hear it here and there (Peter Hook duh), but they are very different bands for sure.
I went to the same school as Ian Curtis but he was about 8 years older, so I didn't know him.

JD/NO were a big deal where I grew up. I used to see the members of NO around the town. But although I loved JD I could never understand NO. Blue Monday is about the most tedious record ever to my ears.
 

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I went to the same school as Ian Curtis but he was about 8 years older, so I didn't know him.

JD/NO were a big deal where I grew up. I used to see the members of NO around the town. But although I loved JD I could never understand NO. Blue Monday is about the most tedious record ever to my ears.
I hear you, they are not for everyone for sure. I have an innate response to anything disco-adjacent from hearing lots of four-on-the-floor records from very small. Blue Monday's not nearly my favorite NO song*, but it was everywhere when I started clubbing in the late 80s. I love JD, but NO are "growing up" era songs for me, always tough to top.

*strong contender for the title, but I'm a fanboy

 

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I downloaded Marquee Moon, and...I like it. It hasn't been revelatory for me, maybe because I came to it after hearing a bunch of stuff that came after, or maybe listening to it on shuffle in the car is just not the proper dosage, but anyway, yeah it's good. Other stuff I've checked out, like Joy Division, haven't resonated.
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There's a big difference between Television and Joy Division. Television sound like they had all done years of woodshedding to hone their craft, Joy Division sound like beginners still learning their instruments and trying to figure out how music and chord changes work.

Have you tried the Pixies yet?
 

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Don't limit your Television to Marquee Moon. The 2nd album was very good. "Glory" is one of my favorite cuts on that one, among others. Richard Hell played with an early lineup of Television. You may like Richard Hell and The Voidoids.

Don't forget the self-titled Television reunion album from the early 1990s, which is excellent.
 
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