Idea for infinite sustain!

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  1. wabashslim

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    Has anybody ever attached a pickup to their speaker and run it up to an unused amp input?

    I'll be shocked if nobody's ever asked this before. After all - "there are no stupid questions."
     
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    Seems like with no strings in the equation you'd get either nothing or something unpleasant.

    A better idea might be to get a cheap little pocket amp, run your guitar to that amp, and the one you plan to use with an A/B box, then just hold that amp directly up to your guitar. I've seen ab engineer do this in the studio to great effect.
     
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    You'd probably get some response from the magnetic flux generated by the voice coil of the speaker.

    However, "infinite sustain" like that comes with the label "feedback" and it is remarkably adept at picking the frequency with the highest gain and SQUEALING like a banshee. Certainly you've experienced that with a microphone - not a good thing. :eek:
     
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    With some refinements that would be an E-bow.
     
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    Pickups pick up speaker sounds. Play some music on your cell phone and put the speaker up to your pickup on your guitar. It'll come out your amp.
    If you put one up to a speaker and run it into that same amp, you'd end up with endless feedback noise. Might be fun to try though and you might think of other ideas while you're messing with it too.
     
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    I think fernandes came up with a pretty good idea decades ago the “sustainiac”

    Doesn’t mean others can’t try
     
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    Yeah, the "same amp" idea was a wisecrack but I do wonder about using a pickup to detect the flux variations from an alnico speaker and running it to a different amp or a recorder input to see what it sounds like.

    All it would take is one hit record using that effect to create the newest overpriced fad for the sheep to blow their money on. I could sell this alongside my true-bypass simulator pedal.

    Do they still have hit records these days?
     
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    a single sustained note is great to dance too, huh?....:cool::D
     
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    Is that the pickup-like thing between the other pickups that outputs instead of inputs?
     
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    Works for Santana, eh?
     
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    that was the drums and bass people were dancing to.... ;)
     
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    I have no idea how it works it’s always in the neck position and can work like a normal pickup and has a couple switches for different sustain functions

    If I had to guess it probably works on the same principles as a e-bow
     
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    or get a Freqout pedal?
     
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    It also would depend on how microphonic the pickups were. If they were waxed, you might not get much signal. An old, dried up one might feedback nicely.

    I'm tempted to give it a try. It would need to be run through a 250K pot, ideally on a footpedal, to ride the effect. Hmmm...
     
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    ... This is the same thing as sticking a microphone in front of a speaker. Gee, I wonder what happens then?
     
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    Attach a Dayton Audio Exciter to your guitar. They're small, about the size of a silver dollar; it's basically a speaker with no cone.

    Power it with a small battery-powered headphone amp. Right behind the bridge is good, but on the back of the headstock is better.
     
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    I knew Floyd made a sustainer pickup I just always thought Fernandes did first, do you know if Floyd’s was actually first
     
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    A guitar with a good pickup running into a Super Champ gets it done.
     
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