I took a 146 pound dump (old school PA gear) this week and I feel fantastic!

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I feel cleansed!

I had two JBL 1 x 15's with a horn that were made in the USA about 10 years ago. Sounded fantastic and weighed 48 pounds each. I also had two Crown Power amps that weighed about 25 pounds each. The power amps were in a mini DJ rack box with a 16 Channel Yamaha mixer on top and a wireless mic unit and two Alesis units in the racks with the power amps.

I couldn't lift the rack without hurting myself. I couldn't lift the JBL's up onto poles without really hurting myself.

Old age and treachery.

Our drummer has one really nice powered QSC 1 x 12 and a mini Allen & Heath board in his basement when we practice and that QSC speaker handles vocals and keys and gets way over the drummer.

I walked into Guitar Center and Alto makes a 10" + 1" horn @ 280 watts Alto speaker for $169. They weigh 14 pounds. FWIW the last band that I was in had four 1 x 15 + horn 300 watt Alto monitors that we kicked across floors and sat in the snow and they worked and worked and worked. I think Alto is OK.

With a 15% coupon I paid about $144 for each speaker. I sold the JBL's and power amps to Music Go Round and my rack is very light now and I have stereo speakers up on stands in my music room. I'm an old fart who has lurched forward. I can plug in a Martin guitar and sing my heart out at deafening volumes and play stereo music just to jam with - it sounds really nice. If took me this long to embrace powered speakers. I'm a loon.

Nice light perky rack!.........................and way over on the other side the second speaker is just high enough to not impede my view of my Johnny Cash litho.

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The power for everything goes to a power conditioning strip in the little rack. I flip one switch and it's fun time.

Alto makes a 1 x 12 subwoofer that has a 1,250 watt amp and it's rated very well where ever you read reviews. I ordered one last night from MF; a very charming young lady gave me her direct extension and told me to call her on Black Friday and she'll credit the Black Friday discount back to my card.

I thought my last rig would be my last rig. Now I think this self powered stuff will be my last rig. The 12 gauge speakon cables that I owned for the JBL's and monitors weighed more than 1 of my new speakers.

I feel like a hipster. I feel like I'm a youthful 45 year old again. Powered speakers. Now I want a flying car.
 

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I'm looking into doing something like that. Four self powered 1 X 10H cabs would be a perfect monitor rig. I already have some small powered subs. I'd go with 1 x 12H cabs for the top boxes. Digital mixer run with an iPad... A few power strips and mic cables and I'm ready to go.
 

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Yep, went with super light powered Turbosound 10's for my X-Air 18 rig. Mix by iPad, speaker wires are ethernet cables. Ain't technology grand?

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I'm about to go Turbosound iP2000/XR18 and call it a day. Let everybody bring their own monitor.

I need a new PA anyhow. Mine is going away as soon as I can afford to replace it.
 

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I was doing sound at a local school, old PV system 6 channel powered head those 15" Black Widow W/ horn "VOT" style cabs, even had that little add on "monitor" system that PV made BITD.

After I get all this set up, (oof) I asked about some mikes they told me they had, the band guy opened up a closet, and there were two JBL Eon powered speakers..ONE would have handled this gig, "oh those..yea, I don't use those they cost a lot of money..." >.<
 

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I needed a power amp a while back for a subwoofer that I built for my home theather. At the same time I needed to get rid of an old console stereo that was taking up space. It was SS from the early 70s, and while it made a cool conversation piece, it sounded horrible and we never used it.

So off on Craigslist it went... "Will trade for quality power amp."

The same day a guy emailed me and offered a Crown 2K power amp. A freaking behemoth... exactly what I needed... 2500w RMS mono into 4 ohms.

He brought it over. I fired it up. It worked. He and a friend loaded up the console stereo. I asked him why he was unloading the K2... "Too heavy to carry around. I've got all Class D stuff now. I don't need this thing."
 

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My drummer friend and I have also been looking at the 1/10 self powered monitors.
I have self powered desktop monitors (Event) and I love them.
So we were looking at one cab just for him and phones for me, or two small cabs, but we might just pass it by,
and go straight to the in-ear monitors.
 

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I swear my dogs can turn a 30 pound bag of dog food into 146 pounds of dumps. I can't wait until they're trained on the radio fence and I can send them to the woods.
 

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I was doing sound at a local school, old PV system 6 channel powered head those 15" Black Widow W/ horn "VOT" style cabs, even had that little add on "monitor" system that PV made BITD.

After I get all this set up, (oof) I asked about some mikes they told me they had, the band guy opened up a closet, and there were two JBL Eon powered speakers..ONE would have handled this gig, "oh those..yea, I don't use those they cost a lot of money..." >.<
Glad those JBLs were still in the closet....in my former district things like that used to "walk off"....especially when not used regularly. They would just "disappear".
 

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Funny thing, I just looked at MF Stupid Deal of the Day......it's a Mackie 1x12 Thumper 1000 watt powered subwoofer for $199 right now. I got a 7% discount but I still paid $370 for the Alto 1250 watt 1 x 12 powered subwoofer last night at 9 PM. :eek:

I'm happy that all my stuff will be Alto. I used Alto stuff on gigs for three years. Man...timing is everything!
 

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I'm looking into doing something like that. Four self powered 1 X 10H cabs would be a perfect monitor rig. I already have some small powered subs. I'd go with 1 x 12H cabs for the top boxes. Digital mixer run with an iPad... A few power strips and mic cables and I'm ready to go.

If you have powered subs, I'd go with the Alto TS210As, 550w RMS. The TXs are not bad but the drivers are lower SPL. The TS210As are excellent, 20lb and 10s are good for vox. These we use can generate earbleed levels of vocal without unnecessary feedback (headroom).

Yamaha DXRs are pricey but great, DBRs are 95% of the speaker and less fancy but bulletproof. The Altos are very solid - a friend had a 15 driver blown up.he lent to someone for a party who set it to 'mic' and then put a line level signal through it. Otherwise they are rock solid and run amazingly cool.
 

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I just had a thread about the QSC 12.2 powered speakers my daughter uses. She can pick them up and put them on the stands herself. I suspect she often gets a guy to volunteer to help though.
Definitely much lighter than the old nonpowered JBL and EV PA speaker cabs.
 
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