I think Springsteen has more in common with the Bat Out of Hell record than the Rolling Stones… East Coast salt water taffy boardwalk blues…

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I enjoyed the album as a whole. Thanks for posting it.
I appreciate your appreciation- those are all just scratch demo rough sketch versions, none of them were actually recorded properly
maybe someday I can manage to reform that band and get decent versions of those songs recorded
 

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I appreciate your appreciation- those are all just scratch demo rough sketch versions, none of them were actually recorded properly
maybe someday I can manage to reform that band and get decent versions of those songs recorded
The speed of the recorder used on the songs was off slightly. So when trying to play along with the song, accurate tuning is important.
 

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Getting back to the thread title:

“Bat Out Of Hell is often compared to Bruce Springsteen’s musical works particularly Born to Run. One thing that fueled this comparison was the fact that pianist Roy Bittan and drummer Max Weinberg who are members of Springsteen’s E Street Band, played on the Meat Loaf album. Steinman admitted that he found it “puzzling, musically” because “Springsteen was more an inspiration than an influence.” But for producer Todd Rundgren, he believed that the record was somehow influenced by Springsteen’s “rural suburban teenage angst”. In a 2017 interview with Billboard, Rundgren even admitted that he first “saw it as a spoof of Bruce Springsteen” which is what sold the album to him.”

 

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There are a lot of those, and they've been some of his biggest hits. A lot of it is also related to the sound of the E Street Band - they had a very distinct musical style, and a big effect on the sound of the songs. Also, most songwriters would kill to be able to write a chorus like those.

But there's also a lot of stuff that's pretty introspective and understated.





I love this song.

Lotsa space. Impressionistic lyrics about the horrors of war.

And he sings “beat of your heart” repeatedly toward the end like someone bleeding out on a battlefield .

Max is even good !

 

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I’m talking classic Era, Bruce Springsteen.

Every time I hear certain Billy Joel songs or unfortunate enough to be within earshot of someone playing that bat out of Hell or bat out of hell 2 record, I always think this reminds me a hell of a lot of Springsteen.

I know what came first, but that’s not my point. It’s just very unique and specific to the East Coast.

Maybe trace it back to doo-wop and then later bands like the young rascals ?

In terms of their influences ?

I guess you gotta grow up “going down the shore” in the summer to fully appreciate that stuff?

Growing up in Detroit was all about “Guitar” and beating you over the head so that’s what I’m acclimated to.

What is this so-called "classic era" you refer to?

He changed with every album. After Born To Run he took time off and then we hear a different style in most of Darkness on the Edge of Town. Then again on The River. Different style of song - shorter and less cinematic, but still great, like Stolen Car.
 

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Post of the year :lol:

Personally, the only Springsteen songs I know are Born in the USA and Walk of Life, but I'm always in the mood to listen to ol' E.M. getting down to business.



(No objectifying here, just a beautiful and talented artist.)

This is my favorite post about Springsteen on the whole forum.
 

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Mellencamp was only the poor man's Springsteen for as long as he put up with his record company steering him that way. Which wasn't long. I'm a Springsteen fan (he's a force of nature live) but Mellencamp was a more gifted songwriter.
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I'm only familiar with Mellencamp's early work, but to say he is a more gifted songwriter than Springsteen I would consider that a massive stretch.
 

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My first year in college I lived in the dorms. My roomate had the Born In The USA album and played it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

And over.

Boy do I hate that album.
I was stuck, not by my own chooosing, in a frat house my junior year in college, and the boys would pile upstairs from the bar just about every night at 2a and just BLAST Supertramp. I didn't much care for them to begin with, but after a year of that...
I'm only familiar with Mellencamp's early work, but to say he is a more gifted songwriter than Springsteen I would consider that a massive stretch.
Agree on the whole. This one, however, comes pretty close.

 

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I was stuck, not by my own chooosing, in a frat house my junior year in college, and the boys would pile upstairs from the bar just about every night at 2a and just BLAST Supertramp. I didn't much care for them to begin with, but after a year of that...

Agree on the whole. This one, however, comes pretty close.




How do you know that you might not actually be in a fraternity, that you might actually be in a sorority, or something far worse than both of those?

Well, if the people you were living with got home from the bar after closing, and blasted Supertramp…😩😳🙉
 

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That is a fair point, Bruce has often talked about how his stage version of himself is an act. He isn't really showing you who he is, but taking on a role as the entertainer / songwriter. Hell, he wrote a lot about street racing in his early days yet never had a driver's license nor knew how to drive a manual.

agree.

you know, as a songwriter he is more Jackson Browne than Keith and Mick too. While Jackson is more internal, the story is still the person in a situation, the stones seem to be more observation of a situation that has people.

I believe there's a contrast in that Jackson Browne always seems personally invested in what he's singing and the stories he's telling.

Springsteen is like the Tom Jones of rock. Up there for the show. I never got the feeling there was much of him in any of them.
 

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I never really got into theatrical east coast style rock until Arcade Fire injected it with a dorky art school aesthetic. Kind of Roxy Music meets Springsteen. Now I kind of get it.

 

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Maybe it is the over-emotive desperation they seem to feature?
Well, over-emotive desperation is a young man’s game. Nebraska sure isn’t that, but the narrator is a very different person.
I love the way BOH was crafted- the over-the-top Rundgren guitar, Edgar Winter’s screaming sax and the pounded piano. It was all testerone-fueled teenage frustration. I first heard it the week it was released and I GOT it. It was not a nuanced presentation. For that matter, neither was punk, which I also loved.
It was difficult decades later to see a middle-aged Meatloaf trying to capture the power of the original. I wasn’t there any more, and neither was he.
 

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gee I just got really embarrassed honest, when ever I saw her or Bette Midler or Bob Hope, Mickey Rooney, John Wayne, May West , I would just think, just how stupid do the producers of these acts think we are?
Treating us like we're Lil' Abner or the Beverly Hillbillies?
That tom foolery was insultingly dumbed down.
You have listen to her Broadway recordings. Anything Goes, for example. Very few performers from her era made it through the ‘60’s, 70’s talk-variety shows with artistic integrity intact.
 
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