I Played The Fender Tone Master Amps Today

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  1. Whatizitman

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    I'm kind of a tube snob. By that I mean I'm mainly a basement player nowadays, and tube amps inspire me to keep practicing and getting better. I freely admit that part of that is the mystique and nostalgia of tube circuitry. There. I said it.

    If I were a regular gigging player and/or making money playing, I would buy the new Tonemaster Twin in a heartbeat, based on the design and reviews alone. No question.

    The tonemasters are not for basement clowns like me. It's for real pros who have neither the time nor patience to deal with old amps for regular performance.

    Good on Fender. I hope the Tonemasters take off and change things up. Seriously.
     
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    That makes more sense, after experiencing all sizes of tube and SS amps in a variety of settings. If I think of it, I can almost see an 80 watt modeller, getting close to the same impact as a 15w or maybe even a 22w tube amp. Watts are watts, but rise times, slew rates and transients aren't functions of RMS watts.
     
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  4. Whatizitman

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    I don't commute to work in a classic car. That's kinda how I see the whole new modeling versus old tube debate.

    I don't gig regularly, so I have no need for an expensive modeling amp. But to be able to use something that looks and tastes like a Twin with half the calories for live use would be a no brainer for me.

    Like I said, I hope this takes off.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. I have large tube amps that I can play in my equally large basement, but I don't gig regularly and don't need to lug them around. If I was a real world working/gigging musician I would for sure be exploring modeling amps for live use.
     
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    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
     
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    Tubes tubes tubes. Lol. I’m getting it...these are for bedroom players. Until the next fad comes along.
     
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    My 66th birthday is coming up and I've been wondering what to buy myself.
    I did a little math.
    Does this sound right?
    66 years young.
    Fender Twin at 33 lbs.
    I can now lug around an amp that's half my age in weight.
    Yahoo !!!
    Sounds about right to me.
     
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    You've made your point.
    We're not that slow that we didn't get it the first time.
     
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    OK - that's enough, on to my ignore list you go.
     
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    We would love to hear some of your very professional tube soaked guitar wizardry oh great one.
     
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    Great idea.
    I'm in.
    Let's see if I can find the button.
    Found it.
     
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    Guys enjoy this new fad. I’m not falling for it. I play for a living and don’t have that kind of money to throw around on something I know will not leave the house. If y’all dig em more power to you. I will wait and see if a used one pops up and check it out. And wait for that price to drop like they always do. Keep on pickin.
     
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    Do we now have to learn new acronyms "TMDRRI" and "TMTRRI?"

    I'm slow on the uptake.
     
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    I'm gonna go try one. If I like it, I'm going to buy it.
    If it doesn't cut it on a gig, I'll return it.
     
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    I don't know. I think RI needs to be left off in this situation, though. They are not reissues.
     
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    But they are ReImagined...:D
     
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    "TMDRSS" and TMTRSS?"
     
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    What do you get if you win? A year's supply of Schadenfreude? That would be awesome.
     
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    Thanks for the very thoughtful review, MilwMark. Any digital amp's touch-sensitivity is my biggest skepticism, so I really appreciate your focus on that.

    Did you fiddle 'round with the cab simulator options on back? Any valuable differences in those switches?

    How 'bout the attentuation levels? Rich, thin, fizzy, easier and useful breakup, good/lousy "bedroom" levels, etc.?

    Gotta admit, my generally sour experiences with modelers and digital amps, my suspicions about current-production Fender quality, my love of old-fashioned technologies and nostalgia for all things "Golden Age" Fender, and my lots-of-amps-on-hand +no-money-in-bank factor--they're a League of Nations set of biases against the Tone Master concept.

    BUT I never thought I'd love Indian food, either! Or a kayak (much) more than a canoe.

    Gotta crowd that crowd of biases aside and listen with fresh ears. As much as I'd feel like a traitor if I didn't look at tubes with the same wonder and appreciation. Maybe I can use the Tone Masters' pine cabinets to offset the seeming unnaturalness of this whole approach....
     
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