I Played The Fender Tone Master Amps Today

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Otis Fine, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. stefanhotrod

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    I personally still prefer oldskool handwired tube amps. Why imitate the benchmark tone if you can have the real thing? You can have a small tube amp and get it mik‘ed.
     
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    You know they could just stop with the Artist versions of classic amps. They were classic for a reason. The only possible mod I would want to some of those classic amps is possibly "power scaling" if it could be done well.
     
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    I mean if I can get the tone and feel of a twin for $500 and 30 lbs less, thats something worth considering to me.
     
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    This X1000.... all I want them to do is Princeton/Deluxe/Twin amps with tubes & power scaling. That would be awesome. I might go for one of these Tone masters some day if they are really all they are cracked up to be but the simple solution is the one Fender seems to ignore. Take the classic amps and put in power scaling.

    Maybe there is something about the design of these classic Fenders that makes it hard.. but it seems like boutique guys have figured out how to make amps that sound like Classic Fenders but have power scaling.
     
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    Mesa just did it eith a Tweed design. They do it differently. I don’t really understand it but it seems to be about operating each tube in diode or triode mode.
     
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    I thought it was pretty easy to tell which was which. I'm not sure how much YouTube's compression plays into this, but especially when Lee put a dirt pedal on, the Tonemaster sounded like utter crap IMHO
     
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    Looking forward to some real world, TDPRI members reviews soon.

    for the mean time here's a new Sweetwater video

     
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    Isnt the stapleton Princeton a straight up brown princeton with a 12" speaker?
     
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    Saw the DRRI one at GC here in Houston, TX. It looked like and sounded like a Fender DRRI but with somewhat less BF mojo. Granted I am comparing it to my 64 Custom Deluxe Reverb Hand-Wired but I previously had a 65 DRRI with the C12K speaker.

    As noted in the Pete & Lee video, you are pretty much limited in varying the sound as there are no tubes to roll and the speaker, while not a C12K, Fender has modified it electronically to sound like a C12K.

    Fifty years from now folks will be looking for vintage processors to get their current Tone Master Amp sounding like the ones in 2019 (that is if they even exist).
     
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    Could've been the miking or amp settings, but the TM Twin Reverb on the Anderton's vid sounded a lot closer to what I hear out of my '66 than the Reissue did. No designs on selling mine at the moment, but I'm more than tempted to pick up a TM anyway.
     
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    Look forward to a detailed report!

    I use a DRRI with an attenuator to get the grit at the volume I choose. The DRRI is not heavy so I don’t (currently) see the point in the digital version if you can already attenuate and the Tonemaster only does DR sound.
     
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    Seems like a good idea, although I can't see the point of the twin. I'm not sure who in this day and age needs a 200 watt guitar amp? I mean, that's what the PA is for. The deluxe is alleged to be 100 watts. I'm not getting the twin. Surely the deluxe is clean at full wattage?
     
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    They're 100w/200w because:

    1) SS watts are never quite the same as tube watts, speakers are never the same as other speakers, etc..
    2) They don't want the power section to ever distort cause it's SS
    3) All distortion comes from the modeling
    4) The Power amp has been upsized drastically and the volume probably limited to make sure the only distortion you ever hear is from the modeling

    The tube ones you hear a mix of:
    - preamp distortion
    - power amp distortion
    - speaker distortion

    In the modeling version you hear ideally:
    - Modeling distortion
    - Never any power amp distortion
    - Never any speaker distortion?
     
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    Interesting. I wonder how these will compare to the Roland Blues Cube series....

    Lighter.
    $200 less.
    Don't need an attenuator.

    Of course, it all depends on what it sounds like.
     
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    I'm open-minded, but I'd like to hear from people who are gigging with them, unmic'ed. There's that old saw that SS amps can sound good on their own but (1) don't cut through the mix or (2) somehow cause ear fatigue. Let's get a report from the trenches.
     
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    I'd like to plug into one without knowing I was playing a solid state amp, just to see if I noticed anything funny. That would be an interesting experiment.
     
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    I'm not buying one but glad to see all the positive vibes. The news tread we had about those was....eh
     
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    Yes...but the twin makes sense weight-wise if that's your cup of tea.
     
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    Absolutely true but on the other hand- who really needs a Twin nowadays?
     
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    Thank you for sharing this. Much appreciated.
     
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