I Played The Fender Tone Master Amps Today

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  1. burntfrijoles

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    This is like any discussion regarding gear. It doesn’t matter who reports they’ve played it and whether they like it or not, it all comes down to whether YOU like it when you play it.
    One man’s floor is another man’s ceiling.
    You can’t determine anything by reading about someone else’s impressions of an amp or pedal.
    Maybe its a bad case of confirmation bias even in an A/B comparison.
    Maybe it’s close enough for the person who is interested.
     
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    Dang, wished I knew what day you were doing this. I would have been there to see that.
     
  3. Durtdog

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    Absolutely.
     
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    That's definitely fair, although here we have two very different accounts where one says the TM is barely half as loud as the real deal where as the other person's DB meter finds the opposite. Taste wouldn't account for something like that.
     
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    Did you make sure the Tone Master was on the full power setting?
     
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    Omg. Stop making sense


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    Have it setup as the dry amp in my wet dry rig. Sounds stupendous, clean or driven ( I use a BD-2 Blues driver and a Tube Screamer Mini). It matches in with the Marshall Origin 50 (the wet amp) marvelously. The tones from each are perfectly complementary.

    Here is a blurry phone picture of it on its rack, I'll dig out my DSLR and provide a better picture tomorrow.

    twin tone master 1.jpg

    I'm running it on the Vibrato channel at volume 4 treble 7, middle 4, bass 7, reverb 4, speed 3 (for the vibrato) and 7 for the intensity. The bright switch is on. the lead is in input 2. My dB meter is registering 95-97 dB at 1 meter.
     
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  8. Mike Eskimo

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    Yeah. But why do I have to keep re-learning this lesson ?! (Thinks of how disappointed he was in the Katana 50 he bought based on word of mouth and how long it took him to sell it at a considerable loss ...:(:mad:)
     
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    Absolutely right. I really wanted to like this amp.

    Lots of players will love this amp and I respect Ironwolf's love for the amp. Everyone should try it for themselves.

    But I stand by my assessment.
     
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    That & the Origin together ought to make a great sounding rig...
     
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    Oh Yeah! What a great Amp, the Super Reverb! Even after 55 years, I can still hear the lead guitarist in my band, playing his 65 Jaguar through his Super! What tone! I hope they do issue one, just more stuff on my list!
     
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    How close would you say it was to a real Twin? I’d be happy with something that was around 90% of the Twin’s tone.

    I’m not going to sell my Fender amps, but a 33 pound Twin for gigs would be great.
     
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    Actually, at 103 decibels, the Twin is just over 25% louder than the Tonemaster at 101 decibels. If I have the decibel logarithmic scale correct.
     
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    Yes but for it to be perceived as twice as loud by a human ear, the dB meter should have shown 111 rather than 103 if I'm not mistaken.
     
  15. burntfrijoles

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    Absolutely! You have to trust your ears. The Tone Master was also liked by @MilwMark. Amps and gear are “different strokes for different folks” deals.
    I had the Fender Mustang GT modeler and i thought it did the blackface genre very well. It was hardly distinguishable from my PRRI in a mix and close side by side but the PRRI “felt” better and seemed “warmer”. Same with the Helix. Again, this could have been confirmation bias.
    I will ditch my tube amps one day for a modeling amp because one day a modeler will fit my needs more and be “close enough”.
     
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    Those are close to the settings I used last Saturday at the gig I played. I wasn't using the bright switch though and my reverb was on 2. I was playing a Gretsch 6120 -55 VS. I will be heading out for it's second gig in a few minutes. Daytime gig in down tone Syracuse out doors.
     
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    Then why not buy one of those boutique amps , the modeling amps are like a Stepford wife of real amps, looks like a real tube amp but just when you need them most, they don’t perform JUST LIKE a real tube amp, they may be great amps, but they aren’t real tube amps. Anything that IMITATES something is ALWAYS missing something.


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    off to do some work...simple Bayou loadin.jpg
     
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    Does the TM Twin breakup at all when you crank it?

    I got to crank a SF Twin to 7 once. The breakup was real sweet.
     
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    In what settings, how frequently and which of “the modeling amps” did you use to confirm this?
     
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