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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Otis Fine, Sep 10, 2019.
OTOH, British amps might be more affordable to the rest of us!
. I'm glad someone is benefitting from the %@&£#@)% that is happening to us. I'm going to live vicariously through all my TDPRI friends for a couple of months!
No less insane over here, if that makes you feel any better.
No politics in this thread please. It is too valuable to be locked.
Nah - but I've just listened to the shipping forecast (which interrupts the Cricket commentary), so all is well for a few minutes! Quintessential Britishness!
No idear where or what it is, but I always liked "dogger".
. It's off the coast of East Anglia. The forecast starts due North and works its way round the UK in a clockwise direction.
I listened to a DR demo by Fender from NAMM it didn't sound like my 1972 DR but they claim it sound like the Blackface reissues which I don't think are that great anyway. The weight reduction and line out may be the best features.
So far we have one individual who bought it, played it for hours, and played a gig. He also claims extensive experience with the real deal. For him, the product is as-advertised. Let's hope others try it out in real world settings and report their experience.
All of the other pro or con posts in this thread can suck an egg. Matters not one bit how it sounds in a youtube vid, or that your neighbor had a modeling amp in the 90s which sucked, so therefore blah blah.
yea ,what he said! all we know for sure is they are overpriced.
Are they though? The Hughes & Kettner Black Spirit is $1200, Quilter is between $400-700 for the head only, the Synergy Syn-30 is $1500, Quilter micro pro combo is $1100, Yamaha THR100H is $600 for the head alone and around $1000 with the 2x12 cab.
JC-120 is around $USD 1,000 new, so like the Tone Master Twin.
A quality amp is going to be expensive, whether it amplifies with tubes or with transistors. I suspect the electronic bits are actually the least expensive parts in either type of amp, compared to a solid-wood cabinet and a top-grade speaker. Most solid-state amps aren't cheap because they have no tubes; they're cheap because they're made from bargain-bin parts, rapidly, with little QC, according to designs that are optimized for ease of construction rather than quality of sound. Build a SS amp with the same attention to quality that goes into a $1,000 tube amp and you wind up with another $1,000 amp, or close to it.
Wonder how the Champion 100 at less than half the price compares, would like to hear a comparison.
I bought one about 10 years ago and sold it not long after. It sounded great at low and medium levels but couldn't cut it on stage. My Laney LC30 was fine at stage volumes.
Having said that, if your drummer has a modicum of self-control then it should be fine. Our drummer hit everything as hard as possible and insisted on being fully miced up even in the smallest of pubs.
All I’m hearing is that :
some that want it for the weight advantages and any trade off in tone can be compensated for.
Some wish that the tonemaster was a more expensive version of the champion 100
Some wouldn’t come near it because it’s SS/modeling.
And barely anyone has actually played it to actually know what it sounds / feel like.
It sounds like you're trying to bring logic into the discussion!
The Universal Audio OX attenuator costs $1299 and is not an amp. Granted it has speaker and room emulation etc but you still need an amp to play. On the other hand, for $1,000 you get a Twin Reverb amp with an attenuator and speaker emulation.
Tube Twin Reverb at $1449 plus Ox at 1299 = $2748 vs $1,000 for Tone Master.
Yes so we should start buying amps based on price per lb.?
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If nothing else, I'll always love the shipping forecast for inspiring Blur to write "This is a Low"