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I just wiped oil over wax. I'm a rebel and I don't play by the rules!

Discussion in 'Finely Finished' started by _MementoMori_, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. _MementoMori_

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    I can't find anywhere on the internet where anyone says it's okay to do this, but I'm stubborn and an experimenter if anything, so I did it. My finish is 3 coats of Danish oil under 5 or so heavy coats of black shoe polish, buffed out really well and cured for about a week. On an absolute whim tonight, I broke out the DO again and just hit the body with a really light coat. Just enough to momentarily brighten the finish.

    It penetrated and rubbed out just fine. I did pick up some of my black shoe polish when I rubbed the DO out, and that surprised me a little. But I didn't remove enough to lighten the wood.
     
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    Similarly, Tru Oil and cordovan shoe polish. Not that many coats, and I believe that I used a coat of oil first to mitigate the stain. IMG_20171128_125202.jpg
    On paint grade mahogany.
     
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    Beautiful finish. Really nice. How's it holding up for you? How long ago did you finish it?
     
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    It could stand another oiling, maybe with steel wool, if I want it smooth. Also could have sanded it smoother to start with, but don't mind feeling the wood.
    I did it about four years before the picture was taken. Oil is easy to touch up; hasn't needed much. It was an experiment in cheap parts that became the house go-to.
     
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    If you look closely you can see, in spite of the poor photo, that nothing fits exactly right. String holes were too far back; the saddle screws are maxed out but the intonation is good.
    I put it together initially without a pickguard, didn't like the look so, retrofit, but it's not exactly parallel with the bridge plate. I wiggled the parts as much as I could. Still fun to play, tho.
     
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    If it intonates, stays in tune, and sounds good, I don't think you did a thing wrong in all honesty.
     
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    Only small complaint is it sustains about 80% of what I consider optimum. A well cranked amp takes care of most of that.
    I may mask it and dye the edges like this: IMG_20180925_111356.jpg
    It would help to hide the joins around the edge. Probably still won't sustain any better.
     
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    Don't wear a white shirt when you're playing it.
     
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    rustins Danish oil has wax in it, so maybe that would handle the wax/oil mix in a good way.
    but DO can dissolve some other coating ore tinting products.
    i had a wax like copper coating that did not stay on a guitar when coating it with DO.
    just try on scrap first i would say

    but why would you want to use shoeshine? darken the wood?
    rustin has tinting fluids that are special for use with DO
     
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    It’s not a problem because Danish oil contains solvents that dissolve the wax, and the method of application helps ensure it bonds well.

    Try a Sprayed-on hard finish over wax and your results will be quite different.
     
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    Tru oil, floor oil, paint-hardening wax have all gone on my guitars at some point in various combinations. Anything in a tin. All fine.
     
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