I Just Recently Started Using a Preamp Pedal

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  1. Cody_J

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    Until recently I never really saw the point of a "preamp pedal." To me they were just another type of overdrive pedal, and I tend to not play with much gain at all.

    Then with a bit of coaxing from a friend, I tried the Greer Soma '63 and fell in love with the sounds I was getting while keeping the gain knob relatively low. Basically I just use the pedal for tone shaping and a bit of bite at most.

    My understanding is that this pedal is modeled after the preamp section of a Fender brownface amp. When I couple it with a Fender Deluxe Reverb, I am extremely pleased with the result. I will say that the pedal has so much gain range that I find the upper end somewhat useless for the way that I play (see the video below), but I am still blown away by its range.

    I made a video with the pedal just for fun!

     
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    Preamps are a simple way to change the sound of the amp without changing anything. I have a few tube based preamp pedals with 12AX7. The one I use most is a FB2 clone so it’s the preamp section of a Bandmaster. But I’ve got one on order that is a Mesa red channel clone with 3 12AX7 tubes. It will be here in a couple months. It’s a rabbit hole.
     
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    A rabbit hole indeed! Since I picked this one up, I've caught myself scrolling through the other options out there on several occasions, haha. Any experience with the Benson Amps one?
     
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    Funny, I’ve actually been looking at their fuzz, not that I need another. Their amps are great so I’m sure the preamp is too. I was able to spend a few minutes on a combo. I’ve only heard demos of the pedal.
     
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    I've heard good things about their fuzz pedals, but admittedly have not tried one myself. Their amps are great though! I really want one of their Mini Chiefs.
     
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    I have a Catalinbread Epoch Pre at the end of my board - that spot is reserved for the pre - it just does wonders for the signal, whether its the standalone pre thats currently there or the pre in the Belle Epoch Deluxe.

    I am a fan.
     
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    Sounds great! What's the Chet-sounding song at :56? Or is that just noodling?
     
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    I have three of these.

    Yes, it is a deep hole!!

    My last gig I used the XLR out of this to run to my own power amp then to my own monitor. So I was basically running my own monitor while the line out was fed to a Velocity power amp and then to a speaker cab, which I mic-ed. So the line out went to the mains, and I had my own monitor, with sound levels I could control on my own. Worked great.
     
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    Admittedly Catalinbread is a company that I've always looked at but never bought. Their stuff looks awesome, and now you've got me looking at their pre.
     
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    Thank you!! It's mostly just noodling. I didn't want to get a copyright strike from YouTube, haha. Chet/Travis/Reed are giant musical heroes of mine, and that's just one of those melodies that always just comes out when I noodle.
     
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    That's awesome! I recently became a big fan of Two Notes. I bought their Captor X for home recording purposes and I have to say that I love this thing. That seems like a company that's doing things right.
     
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    I am not sure if the newer stuff is as good as the older stuff - the Epoch Pre (large grey box 3 knobs, two switches, couple of buttons) is different, I think, from the Epoch boost, which is the single 3 knob pedal. Howard Gee, who has since moved on from CB, is just an incredible designer. He did the grey box, I believe, but not sure if he had any hand in the epoch boost - I tend to doubt it.

    I do not know if their current stuff lives up to Howard's skill since he moved on.
     
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    I’ve got Terror Stamp I’ve used as a power amp and a preamp on separate occasions - also have a tech 21 fly rig - it took me a while to get used to the fly rig (Plexi version). The controls are so wide in their rand it can take a while to learn how to really dial in. But man I love that thing now.

    Edit: I use these for the general “ampyness “ - even the Plexi section is set for just a slight breakup. I stack dirt pedals in front of it for gain.
     
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    I occasionally put a tech 21 Liverpool or British in the loop of my quilter amps if I’m in a Vox / Marshall mood.
     
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    That's good to know. I definitely still want to try some of their stuff, but learning the background of these companies really does help inform the product.
     
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    That's very cool. I love hearing about this kind of stuff, and I've definitely been tempted by the Tech 21 setup in the past!
     
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    I've got a buddy who swears by a similar setup. He's a Quilter player through and through. I'd love to hear your setup if you have anything to share!
     
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    I've been interested in the Soma for a while. I ended up getting an Origin RevivalTrem instead (also based on a Brownface). It's a great pedal. You might also try your preamp pedal directly into an interface or into the effects return of an amp (to bypass the amp's preamp).
     
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    No secret I am an addict (pedals) and that I am a fan of Sushi Box.

    I have 2 pedals coming in a June build slot, probably actually will show up in July. One is a Mesa Dual Rectifier Solo (red channel) preamp with 12AX7 tubes, a direct copy of the preamp from the amplifier. The other is a JCM-800 preamp clone called JC-Emerald, again with 12AX7 tubes. Yay 3 preamp tubes in a pedal. I'll post pics when I get them. Like I said, I am a trusting fan of this maker, both of these launch in June so these are preorder. Told ya, very trusting.
     
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    Therer are many, many good preamps out there. I use a preamp with my small tube amps, notably my old Champ, to get a bit more drive at slightly lower volume settings as that amp gets into OD-distortion territory pretty fast. While those tones are terrific and I use them all the time, I like having a little more tonal spread at the clean-ish end of the spectrum and don't like depending on volume for tone.
     
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