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I have modified my Gibson 335 removing the Stop Bar to put a Trapece Tailpiece

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Marcus Nalgaber, Apr 11, 2021.

  1. Marcus Nalgaber

    Marcus Nalgaber Tele-Afflicted

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    I hadn't used my Gibson ES-335 for a long time and that must be because some things about it bored me. One day I started researching on the Internet about the sound differences that could exist between a 335 with Stop bar and a 335 with Tailpiece. The truth is that I did not find much information, but what convinced me the most was they said that guitars with Tailpiece have much less strings tension making them more pleasant to play. They also said that their acoustic abilities improved, etc ... So I decided to give that 335 a change and turn it into something more magical for my taste. I changed first its original Gibson Bridge by a Graphtech Resomax NV PS-8843-C0 https://graphtech.com/collections/resomax-bridges-tune-o-matic
    And then I removed the Stop Bar and installed a Trapece Tailpiece https://www.thomann.de/gb/abm_1504n_trapeze_tailpiece.htm
    The installation of a Trapece Tailpiece is not complicated, but it requires a little care not to damage the guitar and checking that everything is well aligned and adjusted
    Conclusions: By the moment I am really happy with the change and I hope to continue like this

    Regards,

    Marcus

     
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    Since there isn't a "before", what exactly is the point of watching this video?
     
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    Funny that I had the same thing going years ago. But i played a vintage hollowbodied trapeze ES some years before and didn’t like it too much, almost a bit of a banjo feeling in tone and playing to me.
    First by chance I got a bridge with stringsavers, which smoothed out the highs like nylon saddles. To bring down the tension of 11 string set i bought Faber Tailpiece locking studs and set it really high. After all mods, lower tension on 11s and a smoother attack, while still the feeling the growl sound of a stoptail piece.
     
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    Guitarteach Doctor of Teleocity

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    Stop tail 3xx look like they have a fat ass.

    The stoptail visually balances better.

    i have trapezes on my casino and 345. Can’t say I feel or hear much difference TBH. I do top wrap my les paul though.. but only cos it makes me look cool.
     
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    The trap tailpiece doesn't reduce string tension. If you're using the same gauge strings that you used with the stop bar, all strings are exactly the same tension; if they weren't they'd be out of tune.

    What the trap does is increase the distance between string anchor points, making the strings feel softer when bending. And you have to push the strings farther with the trap to achieve the same note you did on the stop bar.
     
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    Came here to say the same thing.
    Naturally, Peegoo beat me to it.
     
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    Marcus,

    Enjoyed that. Your videos alway inspire, and it's great to hear a less-processed guitar tone in the mix. I think the extra string length behind the bridge enhances some overtones and resonances not found on a stop-bar setup. Provides some "character" versus the stop-bar which renders a 335 as a Les Paul soundalike.
     
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    In the 70s my 335 went from Bigsby to trapeze to stop. I heard zero difference in "tone" or playability, but I was not expecting any. I still have the trapeze tailpiece.
     
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  9. EsquireOK

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    Trapezes look way, way better, and offer no detriments, and that is reason enough, IMO. I am glad to have my 335 Studio with trapeze, as opposed to the seemingly more common top mounted tailpiece.

    Next: Get ya one of these:

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