I have a theory (clean, crunch and echoplex involved)

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  1. DaphneBlue

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    Rig: jazzmaster --> catalinbread belle epoch --> princeton or blues cube (both played with their own reverbs)

    Here it is:

    I don't think I've discovered some unrevealed truth but I think we never say it enough. If you add an echoplex preamp in your signal chain, clean sounds and crunch get better.

    Clean sounds: my guitar gets more resonance. A wider panel of frequencies are involved and it seems to become alive and intense. It's true for an electric guitar but it's especially true for acoustic guitars and hollow bodies.

    Crunch: the attack is more powerful. I also observe that my intentions are more obvious. It's especially true in my case as I play with my fingers and there's no overdrive in my pedals. I keep the amp clean and it breaks up if I decide to play my guitar more powerfully.

    Well, that's all I wanted to say. I'd love to read your opinion on the topic!
     
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    Yup.
    I always use a preamp now.
    I had an Xotic EP booster, and when it was engaged it was literally like taking a blanket off of my rig.
    I’ve since moved on to a Nocturne Mystery Brain. It’s an incredible pedal that uses the preamp from a Space Echo RE-301 (as opposed to an echoplex), but also has an amazing digi-tape delay.
    Nocturne also sells a version with just the preamp called the dynoBrain and one with the preamp plus a boost called the Atomic Brain.

    I’ve found this preamp circuit is brighter than the EP circuit. There’s a lot more articulation.
    It’s particularly great for my Gretsch’s, but it’s equally great for my tele.
    It gives the low strings more punch, and strengthens the highs. Lots of articulation and definition, even with overdriven power chords. Every note in a chord has a voice.

    I sold my EP boost to a friend of mine who keeps it on at all times.
     
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    "If you add an echoplex preamp in your signal chain, clean sounds and crunch get better."

    This is true from my experience. There's a simulation of the Echoplex preamp around.
    https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/ep101-7-10137-06930-5.do


    https://tonereport.com/reviews/dunlop-ep101-echoplex-preamp
     
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    Nocturne Brains products have been on my list for a long time. They are so great! Thanks for the details on the preamps! Gas is on!
     
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    There's something magic about those preamps
     
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    Same as stacking gain in regular pedals... There is magic with two set low that you can't get with one set at max.

    I do it with a pair of DS-1s since I have two and no TS.



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    Well, there is a reason Jimmy Page was known to use an echoplex as a preamp. It hink Brian May did aswell. I want to buy one, but even those solid state ep 3's are going for too much. I may need to just take a hit, and grab an ep 2 before they are all gone.
     
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    wasn't it the same principle in old recording? stacking compressors with an eq and other effects to tape?
     
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